Lives sound engine argument again ...

[tigali]

I can't be arsed reading this whole thread so could someone summarise it for me in a couple of sentences please?
Link to any interesting stats or analysis please.
Ta.

[kb420]

Let me summarize the entire thread for you:







And that pretty much sums it all up!

[SubFunk]

^^^ what all the idiots that don't get that Live sounds shite?























































hey, just pulling a leg here.
this thread is fun.

[Nicknackerski]

Kb420 you are a fuckin genius! That is funny as fuck!

[audiovoid]

the people at Ableton have stated many many many many times that at a clip's original bpm the only warp mode that affects the audio is Complex and Complex Pro.

whatever you're hearing you're diagnosing it wrong.

Wow actually i just tested it quickly on live 7 here at work and you're right. All 3 of those warp modes sound the same as long as its at the right tempo. I tested it on a very short section of a song with many sustaining sounds and just set the loop to the correct tempo with only the one 1.1.1 warp marker.
So now that i think about it, it must've been the way that i had warped those old tunes which was the reason why I was hearing the flutter even at the correct tempo. That has to be what I was diagnosing wrong.

[Syncretia]

I did some testing on Live's "summing engine" between versions. Results here:
http://syncretia.net/wordpress/?p=65

Also, I wrote an article about how stupid it is to use the term "Sound Engine"
http://www.syncretia.com/wordpress/?p=53

PS: I recently realised that the images don't show up in some browsers

[holmes001]

Ok. I've used Live for sometime now and produced tracks to 5 labels, so I have s fair understanding of Live. IMO.. The sound engine isn't great. For example listen to a clean sample that needs no EQ etc drag it into Live and immediately the sound has severely been altered. Why should a sound that is already processed and mastered need to be EQ and processed again? One if the few things that gets to me of with Live. I hate latency too LOL, but that's another topic.

[tedlogan]

Hmm, is this the transient attack of the Volvo slope assault? Probably.

and, sigh.

[re:dream]

[ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends]

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[SuburbanThug]

Perhaps he didn't turn off the autowarp.

[eyeknow]

I just wish I could still see kb420's pic

[kb420]

I just wish I could still see kb420's pic

I can't remember exactly which pic I posted, but it was probably something like this:

[eyeknow]

[Hermanus]

a good resumé