live 4:midi:hardware synths
live 4:midi:hardware synths
I have read a few articles but really dont feel like i have gained a clear answer. I understand that live 4 can sequence softsynths, but what about hardware synths? And more importantly, how many differnet channels of midi does live have? I would like to be able to sequnce differnt synths at the same time using live. Thanks for your help, big up!
rivas3
rivas3
Ok, the way it sequences hardware synths is exactly the same way you sequence the softsynths.
Basically you assign a midi channel, select the bank and patch you want and you're away.
The minimum amount of midi output channels is ofcourse sixteen. I haven' tried using more because my card only has one out.
Basically you assign a midi channel, select the bank and patch you want and you're away.
The minimum amount of midi output channels is ofcourse sixteen. I haven' tried using more because my card only has one out.
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Yeah, using external synthies with Live 4 is a realy funny way to compose music . . . for me one of the best I ever have tried.
I use only the Live 4 Midi-Clips to trigger my Jomox XBase and my Access Virus A. It works perfectly and you can do much more than only a JamSession....
have Phon
I use only the Live 4 Midi-Clips to trigger my Jomox XBase and my Access Virus A. It works perfectly and you can do much more than only a JamSession....
have Phon
cool Veyton Templates here !
thanks for the tips. i have upgraded to 4. for anyone else who reads this, its so easy to accomplish setting up midi channels and to sequence. i am so excited about live 4, i think its mind blowing and that we are going to hear and see many top artists swear by it soon, if not already. for me, its a seamless integration into my current studio setup of hardware sequencers and synths. thank you ableton, big up!
rivas3
rivas3
Glad you're getting along with Live ok! The M-Audio 8x8 Midisport will give you 128 channels of midi (8 midi ports, times 16 channels per port).rivas3 wrote:thanks for the tips. i have upgraded to 4. for anyone else who reads this, its so easy to accomplish setting up midi channels and to sequence. i am so excited about live 4, i think its mind blowing and that we are going to hear and see many top artists swear by it soon, if not already. for me, its a seamless integration into my current studio setup of hardware sequencers and synths. thank you ableton, big up!
rivas3
Honestly, Live 4 makes using hardware fun again! I typically bring up the Session view and 'jam' a lot of 1 bar, 2 bar, or 4 bar clips. Then I start copying/pasting them into the Arrangement view and start composing my song.
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As stated in page 109 of the Live 4 manual:Goseba wrote:Although a proud owner of Live 4, I have not had a chance to use it yet. I intend to use it with outboard gear but I was wondering about program/bank changes.
Are these incorporated into each clip, and if so, what sort of delays are experienced when changing sounds from one clip to the next?
Live can send MIDI bank/program change messages to external devices. According to the setting in these controls, launching a clip also sends its bank/program change message. If you are using Live to send Midi to your synth, this means that each MIDI clip in your Live Set can play a different sound on your synth. Live offers messages for 128 banks with 128 sub-banks, each of which has 128 programs. If you do not want your clip to send program or bank change messages, simply set the bank program choosers to "None".
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Are these incorporated into each clip, and if so, what sort of delays are experienced when changing sounds from one clip to the next?[/quote]
Hi,
I don't experience delays with those MIDI messages I send to a microQ and a KStation.
The only brainteaser could be at the beginning, because every synth has his way to organize patches: on some you may have maybe 3 banks (A, B and C) and say, 100 sounds each bank (as on my microQ) while on others you can have the sound from 100 to 400 (K station).
You will need some time to figure out how your hardware gear responds to these messages but then it's all about having fun.
Are these incorporated into each clip, and if so, what sort of delays are experienced when changing sounds from one clip to the next?[/quote]
Hi,
I don't experience delays with those MIDI messages I send to a microQ and a KStation.
The only brainteaser could be at the beginning, because every synth has his way to organize patches: on some you may have maybe 3 banks (A, B and C) and say, 100 sounds each bank (as on my microQ) while on others you can have the sound from 100 to 400 (K station).
You will need some time to figure out how your hardware gear responds to these messages but then it's all about having fun.
Thanks for your comments. I understand about program/bank changes. I just seem to remember when I was sequencing in the past that if they were at the start of a pattern that had notes at the start also, that there were occasional glitches.
It's been a couple of years since I was last playing around with music and I didn't know if things had moved on. I guess it is down to the speed that the data is tranmitted to the outboard synths. A MIDI limitation perhaps?
I guess I will have to try it and find out. It would be great if each midi clip could have its own program changes without any stutters at the start of it playing.
It's been a couple of years since I was last playing around with music and I didn't know if things had moved on. I guess it is down to the speed that the data is tranmitted to the outboard synths. A MIDI limitation perhaps?
I guess I will have to try it and find out. It would be great if each midi clip could have its own program changes without any stutters at the start of it playing.
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