I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

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gabrielsaint
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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by gabrielsaint » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:07 am

Make it 85 to 95 bpm and use an 808 kit under that melody.

That's all they ever want.

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by starving student » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:09 am

it's still in the vein of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_YotPzo ... re=related

the same type of rapper could rap on nux's beat

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by H20nly » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:32 am

hurlingdervish wrote:dunno man^^^

but rap beats aren't about the quality of composition..the beat is supposed to serve the rapper not your (excellent) skills

the more room you leave for them to rap the better
While I beleive this too an extent, to beleive in it too completely is to be narrowminded... Thats what makes people say things like...
gabrielsaint wrote:That's all they ever want
"They" Nazis, Jews, Niggas, Rednecks, Crackers, Clampeds, Frogs, Dancing Bears, Turtles, Them? Who? What?
There's some really good, really deep, hip hop out there with beats just as sweet as the rhymes and vice versa.. The problem is they're 85% same ole shit and/or that mass market crap from TV. Thats why people have their minds so made up about "rap" or "hip hop". Its just as easy to say the same thing about house music or tarnce but since almost nobody but DJs and wanna be DJs even know who makes 99.9% of it no one can knock any of the artists.



@ gabrielsaint I wasn't trying to single you out. No bad vibes dude. I actually hate it when someone says "what choo mean they?" or some such, but the example was easy to grab.

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by Beto1 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:39 am

I think the main thing is the snare - too much delay efx and it doesn't crack enough. Im not sure I heard much of the kicks either. Sounds good though.
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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by hurlingdervish » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:43 am

obviously the best hip hop will be the ones with original vibes and rhymes

but hes talking pure beats for cash

and if the dude is buying beats...he probably just wants the same old shit

the good shit will probably be made by hip hop fans that want to push the genre or a partnership inside of the studio with a direct dialogue and not "is this good?" "or how about this"

but the average joe rapper just wants simple stuff

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:56 am

J Dilla would love to read that. :roll:
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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by gabrielsaint » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:31 am

H20nly wrote:
hurlingdervish wrote:dunno man^^^

but rap beats aren't about the quality of composition..the beat is supposed to serve the rapper not your (excellent) skills

the more room you leave for them to rap the better
While I beleive this too an extent, to beleive in it too completely is to be narrowminded... Thats what makes people say things like...
gabrielsaint wrote:That's all they ever want
"They" Nazis, Jews, Niggas, Rednecks, Crackers, Clampeds, Frogs, Dancing Bears, Turtles, Them? Who? What?
There's some really good, really deep, hip hop out there with beats just as sweet as the rhymes and vice versa.. The problem is they're 85% same ole shit and/or that mass market crap from TV. Thats why people have their minds so made up about "rap" or "hip hop". Its just as easy to say the same thing about house music or tarnce but since almost nobody but DJs and wanna be DJs even know who makes 99.9% of it no one can knock any of the artists.



@ gabrielsaint I wasn't trying to single you out. No bad vibes dude. I actually hate it when someone says "what choo mean they?" or some such, but the example was easy to grab.
Can't single me out man. I've released two hiphop records. Was actually an Emcee for 10 years.

By "they" I meant top 40 and all the kids at the clubs that request top 40 rap like the stanky leg.

I love 85pm 808 beats. And I love you too! :lol:

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by MajoDub » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:59 am

hip hop is not dead listen some dälek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w9bZ-TSJEs

that shoegazing atmosphere is big

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by Sleep Tyght » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:14 am

I'm not a really a Lil Wayne fan, but I'll say this much...



Over the years I've heard/read so many comments regarding how shitty hip hop is, and how any monkey with half a brain and one nut could create it.



No. We don't believe you. You need more people. It's a lot harder than the average Electro God of Music might think. Not a jab at the OP, but I listened to the track, I have to agree that it isn't quite hip hop/street/Lil Wayne-ish enough. The drums just aren't hip hop AT ALL. I think it would sit perfect as a bed for a car ad. Video game music? Definitely. Hip hop???? Well...


Well...for anyone telling you to be original for fuck's sake, let's just say the gated trance sound is already played out in today's pop music masquerading as "hip hop". Lil Wayne may not be the artist you enjoy, but he's been featured on PLENTY of dope ass beats. I suggest you take a listen to Drake's "Forever". Look up Lil Wayne's Kobe Bryant Dedication for the 2009 Finals.......



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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by ThrowAway » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:23 am

I say go buy a ski mask and a dark oversized hoodie, break into his house and beat him until he cries. Then ask him if your hip hop enough. :twisted:

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by outershpongolia » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:31 am

ThrowAway wrote:I say go buy a ski mask and a dark oversized hoodie, break into his house and beat him until he cries. Then ask him if your hip hop enough. :twisted:
and then hand him your dope ass beats, and call him "lil' lil' wayne".

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by mike_o » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:52 am

ThrowAway wrote:I say go buy a ski mask and a dark oversized hoodie, break into his house and beat him until he cries. Then ask him if your hip hop enough. :twisted:
quote of the year right hear :D

to the thread starter, your tracks are sweet and I really enjoyed them a lot, dont change shit, tell them to learn some diversity in their skills and flow, that will usually scare them off pretty quick, works for me whether I want it to or not :twisted:

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by starving student » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:10 am

is that what this threads about, is nux trying to scare somebody off?

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by outershpongolia » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:25 am

It's about bustin' nux.

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Re: I'm not hiphop enough for rapper apparently..

Post by fingerprince » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:00 am

I was just about to spit and moan about hip hop died 15 years ago
When
DaleK!!
WTF
Quality item - the real deal
Lil wayne views 2.3 million
DaleK views - 1.2 thousand
Dalek real quality - Lil Wayne Loads of money and girls in shorts
Your man wants girls in shorts not quality
Out

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