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I would love to have the kind of options that you finf in flstudio piano roll.

Cut tool : to make cool stuff like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvV1FLrjmck





Strum :


randomizer :


Riff machine : http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/htm ... l_riff.htm




Piano roll awesomeness features : http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/html/pianoroll.htm




More advanced features : http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/html/pianoroll.htm



Live doesnt has any of these really cool features. it would rock if implemented in real time.

fruity piano roll is, by far, the sickest piano roll ever. Wish Live would learn a thing or two from them

In general, I find that the feature I want the most is more powerful MIDI editing. My desires are not just confined to the piano roll (although those features look nice) but also I would love to have some form of score editor or at least a score view so I could more easily import my creations from Finale and other MIDI score editors...

heres a neat trick, didn´t know this until shortly. To make a snare roll: Highlight the notes, press Ctrl (apple) and draw a straight line in the velocity region. Now if you want an exponential curve, stick the velocity plug inside and apply drive.

Grappadura wrote:heres a neat trick, didn´t know this until shortly. To make a snare roll: Highlight the notes, press Ctrl (apple) and draw a straight line in the velocity region. Now if you want an exponential curve, stick the velocity plug inside and apply drive.

great thanx,

but all those tools , are so cool, and imagine then i real time ?

ableton piano roll actually sucks is so rudimentary.

You have to use 2 tools for one function like editing notes , you have to use one tool to add and delete notes and another one to move them

why not just have an option to use one tool, left mouse button to add and grab and move , and right mouse button to delete, it speeds up the process 200% ( double as fast) fuckin double clicking to add one note is stupid .

Tweaking Knobs wrote:

Grappadura wrote:heres a neat trick, didn´t know this until shortly. To make a snare roll: Highlight the notes, press Ctrl (apple) and draw a straight line in the velocity region. Now if you want an exponential curve, stick the velocity plug inside and apply drive.

great thanx,

but all those tools , are so cool, and imagine then i real time ?

ableton piano roll actually sucks is so rudimentary.

You have to use 2 tools for one function like editing notes , you have to use one tool to add and delete notes and another one to move them

why not just have an option to use one tool, left mouse button to add and grab and move , and right mouse button to delete, it speeds up the process 200% ( double as fast) fuckin double clicking to add one note is stupid .

What do you mean 2 tools to delete/add? Just double-click, no? That's all I have to do to either add or delete. To move, it's just click and drag.

I do think that FL's piano roll is top notch and yes Live would be better if they could um, *cough* steal *cough*, borrow those ideas and import them into Live's piano roll.

It looks like Your gonna be able to make some pretty cool devices like that in MFL. if you check out the extend video there is some midi editor/processor stuff that will ship with the release.

/ i know you all must be sick and tired of people answering posts like this. but had to give it a go.

elxicano wrote:

Tweaking Knobs wrote:

Grappadura wrote:heres a neat trick, didn´t know this until shortly. To make a snare roll: Highlight the notes, press Ctrl (apple) and draw a straight line in the velocity region. Now if you want an exponential curve, stick the velocity plug inside and apply drive.

great thanx,

but all those tools , are so cool, and imagine then i real time ?

ableton piano roll actually sucks is so rudimentary.

You have to use 2 tools for one function like editing notes , you have to use one tool to add and delete notes and another one to move them

why not just have an option to use one tool, left mouse button to add and grab and move , and right mouse button to delete, it speeds up the process 200% ( double as fast) fuckin double clicking to add one note is stupid .

What do you mean 2 tools to delete/add? Just double-click, no? That's all I have to do to either add or delete. To move, it's just click and drag.

I do think that FL's piano roll is top notch and yes Live would be better if they could um, *cough* steal *cough*, borrow those ideas and import them into Live's piano roll.

double clicking to add and delete notes sucks , if you have ever used one mouse button to add and move notes and the other button to delete, you will realise that the workflow is so much faster and inspiring.

elxicano wrote:

Tweaking Knobs wrote:

Grappadura wrote:heres a neat trick, didn´t know this until shortly. To make a snare roll: Highlight the notes, press Ctrl (apple) and draw a straight line in the velocity region. Now if you want an exponential curve, stick the velocity plug inside and apply drive.

great thanx,

but all those tools , are so cool, and imagine then i real time ?

ableton piano roll actually sucks is so rudimentary.

You have to use 2 tools for one function like editing notes , you have to use one tool to add and delete notes and another one to move them

why not just have an option to use one tool, left mouse button to add and grab and move , and right mouse button to delete, it speeds up the process 200% ( double as fast) fuckin double clicking to add one note is stupid .

What do you mean 2 tools to delete/add? Just double-click, no? That's all I have to do to either add or delete. To move, it's just click and drag.

I do think that FL's piano roll is top notch and yes Live would be better if they could um, *cough* steal *cough*, borrow those ideas and import them into Live's piano roll.

double clicking to add and delete notes sucks , if you have ever used one mouse button to add and move notes and the other button to delete, you will realise that the workflow is so much faster and inspiring.


and about staeling features , well , you could say that about :

the piano roll
the faders, the knobs
the sends ,

come on ...

mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote:It looks like Your gonna be able to make some pretty cool devices like that in MFL.

What if you dont want to buy Max4Live? Just do without yea?

Piano roll, browser and session automation are the 3 things i find need the most improvements now.
Without M4L.