starving student wrote:to me it sounds like what's really bothering some of these kids is that they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that todays music is basicly shit compared to the music of yesteryear and that's not some old fogey talk either, alot of the smarter kids are finding this out and searching out this music. there was a time when saying the old stuff was better just meant that you were some parent or other that's out of touch and can't hear what your kids could hear but that is no longer the case.
since the underground and mainstreams major shift to software the music has been super shitty at best, and of course there are exceptions but on a whole it's been terrible. None of this should suprise anyone since it's not rocket science, electronic musicians used to play electronic music and now all we do is program electronic music why in hell would anybody in their right mind think that the music of today should be better hahahhah!
it even seems like the majority of software developers know more than their customer base because the majority of software developement has gone in the direction of emulation, trying to emulate this or that from the past
and theres no need for me to jot down a list for you cause you know them all already, that's why cats like jeremy ellis, dorian concept and elliot are going in a different direction than the mass of crap artist out there cause even really young kids are starting to see and hear things differently.
I really think it has to do with the advent of music blogs and all these kids downloading all this music that sounds like shit they could never in a million years hear from their favorite fab flavor of the month electronic
music artist and they are starting to draw distinctions.
none of the music coming out today is memorable none of it (bar exceptions)
alot of these ducks are just letting follow actions and random generators write songs for them WTF just sit down and write a damn song for petes sake
here's a little test write a song and if the non-glitched non-distorted version of your song doesn't sound as good as the same song glitched and distorted to all eternity then you know the song is really crap.
I want to start seeing some beatbattles and remix contest where using efx is against the rules, lets hear some electronic musicians unplugged and hear what's really goin on,, todays artist couldn't even fuck with duran duran when it comes to writing music and you got the nerve to think you could fuck with kraftwerk............fucoutta here.......
quite fun as i listened to my track today in 'raw', and except for the hihat, it sounded fine (less crips, more dull, but so far, still fine, the groove i like about it was still there). the hihat was much too loud as i dumped it down using the effects.
fully agree with your post btw, that's why i 'only' have ableton, and try to squeeze every bit i can out of operator, which i fell in love with. it's not much, but more than enough to suite any needs actually. i create my drums with it, all my melodies, and it's awesome to do so. very rewarding, much more than using the latest and greatest tools around (okay, ableton is one of the latest and greatest) to just rock with presets.
and i honour kraftwerk espencially for coming up with so much that is nowadays just a given. the repeating monotone vocals f.e... they did them live, manually, by trying to sound monotone. nowadays we just loop something up, done.