That little slut sis of mine...

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by blank » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:05 am

exper wrote:
Rave wrote:A Mac wouldnt have had this problem. :P

Didn't want to say it, but +1
Never, ever have driver issues on my macs.

I have a MM8 USB2, and for my needs, it is great, no drivers, always works, no glitches...
I'm technical director in a post prod box, mac can also have issues like this.

Both mac and pc are equal crap imho.
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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by exper » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:18 am

blank wrote:
exper wrote:
Rave wrote:A Mac wouldnt have had this problem. :P

Didn't want to say it, but +1
Never, ever have driver issues on my macs.

I have a MM8 USB2, and for my needs, it is great, no drivers, always works, no glitches...
I'm technical director in a post prod box, mac can also have issues like this.

Both mac and pc are equal crap imho.

Ha ha! Screw 'em both. Time to bring back Next! cubes or heck, even Ataris then!

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by H20nly » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:12 pm

blank wrote:Both mac and pc are equal crap imho
I have a dream....

where one day little PC boys and little Mac girls can walk hand in hand...


exper wrote: I have a MM8 USB2
maybe I forgot to mention mine was firewire. does it matter? i dunno.
do i care at this point. no.

that Alesis was the weakest link. i've known that for a long time. it worked a hell of a lot more than it didn't. i'll give it that...
i'll even give you the fact that the Alesis driver updates seemed to fuck up the registry which Macs don't have to worry about... but at the end of the day does any of that shit matter?
NO
its gone and its replacement creates a better sounding audio file in Arrange view (Session too).

-1 for Alesis
+1 for TC Electronic

but thanks, if nothing else, what i learned from your comment... my interface creates better sounds than yours. :wink:

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by Machinesworking » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:08 pm

You know with a title like that, I'm not helping until you post pics of your little sis. :evil:

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by Sage » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:16 pm

Machinesworking wrote:You know with a title like that, I'm not helping until you post pics of your little sis. :evil:
+1!

Was going to recommend sending her my way. :roll:

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by H20nly » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:46 pm

H20nly wrote:My mixer (Alesis MM8) just bit me in the ass
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she really likes it when you twist her knobs...
she will blow your mind...
or at least your registry

whats that? "I don't have a registry" you say?
well it doesn't make you that much less of a man.

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by leedsquietman » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:21 pm

I've had no problems with drivers on the IO14 FW interface, the latency isn't as low as RME but I've had TC Konnekt and Saffire PRo connected and they both needed higher latency buffers than the Alesis.

The IO14 has the same pres as the IO26 which are pretty good for the money too. A Presonus Bluetubes has a tad more character, but if you need a cleaner pre sound, the IO14 and 26 offer it (cleaner pres are better suited for acoustic instruments and some vocalists).

My only dislike is to do with the firewire chipset in my newer laptop which is not TI and therefore craps out more frequently and under less load than my ancient P4 laptop. That's not the Alesis's fault, but it is a reason why I will probably buy the RME Fireface UC when I can afford it (not likely any time soon :( ), (basically an RME FF400 in a USB 2 interface, which often outperforms the FF400) which has comparable performance to a Multiface running under PCI.
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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by H20nly » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:51 pm

^ I hear ya, but all those Alesis models you listed would be considered an upgrade from my Multi Mix 8.

Its kinda like me talking about my Ford Escort and you talking about your Ford Mustang. Yeah they're both Fords buuuuUt....

For me the frustration is that I have to fix it - again.
Its not that I can't.
Its that I don't wanna...
Its that I shouldn't have to - again.

I think I paid my dues with this product. The clean install on my laptop works great. All the clean installs work great. Its the updates that kill it. Thats not right. I suppose one could argue "then don't update". :|
whatever.
For what its worth the latest update seems to have the best interface and controls that the model has had. It removed some of the lower buffer settings - everything lower than 224 but there could be a good reason for that. I used to hop between 192 and 256. If there was a hic-up I would just change the buffer and rock on. When that locks the computer up and knocks out Live in the process it pisses me off. Then, when I restart I have to uninstall, restart, reinstall the device, set it back up in Live, freeze, reboot, uninstall device, reinstall device, set back up in Live, bite lip, hang on edge of seat, finally get back to... to... what was that I was doing again? oh yeah working on this track...
Fuck that. If this TC does me the same way I'll grab the Firebox, if the Firebox does me the same way I'll say to myself - "what the hell have you been doing wrong?"

Besides, like I mentioned... the TC has made a better sounding recording. Ultimately ease of use and the best quality are what we upgrade or migrate for right?

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by leedsquietman » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:22 pm

Well, anything that requires a reinstallation of windows which isn't down to cracked software, is really in need of replacing, so i feel you on that one. One weird thing - in Control Panel, the Alesis IO driver shows as taking 6 GB (GIGABYTES) of system memory - yet when you look at the file properties and if you delete it (I did once to test this), it is only 14 MB. This is a bit freaky and not good, Alesis never did respond to my e-mails about this issue either (sent twice).

The TC Konnekt has a great reverb and is a good product, my only concern with TC is that they are super slow at producing 64 bit drivers, their Powercore and Virus products still don't have even Vista 64 drivers and can't run under win 7 even in compatibility mode. They say they're "working on it" but have said that for a long time on Vista 64 drivers ...

Presonus are a good bet, so long as you have a TI or VIA firewire chipset. The firebox isn't the greatest interface ever but represents good value for money with better pres than the MM8.
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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by H20nly » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:43 pm

leedsquietman wrote:in Control Panel, the Alesis IO driver shows as taking 6 GB (GIGABYTES) of system memory - yet when you look at the file properties and if you delete it (I did once to test this), it is only 14 MB
:?: do you mean Task Manager?

The thing that is worrying me about TC is how many of their products are no longer available.
I don't have to worry about 64 bit just yet. Part of me wants to. The other part (the one thats winning) can't be bothered.

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by citizenchris099 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:54 pm

bump

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by CR78 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:11 pm

Echo Audiofire 4.

About as close to FF400 Pre's you're going to get. Also, at least $800 less expensive.

I owned an FF400 and now use the AF4 with my lappy.

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by Machinesworking » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:01 am

H20nly wrote:
whats that? "I don't have a registry" you say?
well it doesn't make you that much less of a man.
considering most posts about windows registries are about problems with it, I would say it's more akin to a prostate. Mac users have prostates, we just don't get cancer all the time.

Not buying your cop out, this thread is cancer without pics of your sister!

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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by H20nly » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:03 am

^ Okay... here she is again... make sure there are no kids near your computer...

she's not wearing any clothes :oops:






































































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Re: That little slut sis of mine...

Post by leedsquietman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:50 am

No - Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs. What I meant was disk space, not memory, my bad :oops:
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