dubspot courses - anyone been?

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dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by buzby » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:55 pm

hey

i ve started looking into going to a dubspot electronic music production course using live

does anyone have any experience with them or know anyone that has been and can recommend them

thanks
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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by contakt321 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:06 pm

My friend went and really got a lot out of it. He had nothing but good things to say.

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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by buzby » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:30 pm

thanks contakt

it looks pretty cool and the video tutorials that ive watched are really helpful
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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by nuxnamon » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:49 pm

tuition is $3000 8O

i dunno.. you can buy a decent setup with that and learn on your own if your really passionate about it..

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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by outershpongolia » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:18 pm

$3000? fuck that they better write, record, mix, and master a CD For me, and then press off some damn demo's and give me a back massage before I get out of the first class if I'm payin' 3 G's...

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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by madhattared » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:03 am

yeah buy any of the ableton live power series books, and spend it on gear.
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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by outershpongolia » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:44 am

shit, get them books from a library, interlibrary loan is awesome.

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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by buzby » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:27 am

hey

thanks for the feedback

yeah the price is something that might make me think twice about things but then when i look back and see how much money i ve spent in the past on alcohol etc etc then i dont feel so bad about forking out this money -

i consider myself to be a non consumer (as much as possible), all i own in the world is a backpack full of clothes, laptop, monitors and midi controllers - i do not own an apartment or any furniture and i never go and do weekly shopping for clothes, gadgets etc so i figured this isn the worse way to spend $$

i ve been using abe for a few years and have been on a long flat plateau with my technical skills especially eq and compression - also i try not to always view things as linear as what this course would cost (that isnt a criticism of anyones way of thinking or opinion that this course is too expensive) ...

i could buy more gear and books and sit at home or i could spend $3000 and have the experience of being in NY for 3 months, meet new people .. open up new doors for traveling - maybe i meet someone in NY who i make a smash hit with which will earn me buckets loads of money .... more than enough to cover the $3000 (not that i think that will happen but im just trying to illustrate my way of thinking on this)


also it would give me a "producers certificate" - well ... it sounds fancy and after doing a 3 month course im under no illusion that im gonna be ready to start applying for work in big studios but if i wanted to travel and give private intro lessons to abe, then having a certificate might encourage more people to take lessons - so i meet more people, travel more, recover the costs


but yeah - thanks for the tips about the books and interlibrary loan (never heard of that) - i ll check them out
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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by Dr Dub » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:00 pm

write a mail to tom cosm and ask him what would be possible for 3000$?

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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by buzby » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:18 pm

getting tuition with cosm would be great and not be as expensive i guess - ive been to NZ 3 times though and NY would be a new experience

i guess cosm he is nt paying rent on a building packed with equipment for many people to use and does nt have to pay staff wages etc - i imagine the cost of the overheads at dubspot is pretty hefty

anyways - if anyone has more info about whether they think the tuition is good then please let me know

thanks for all the input
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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by nuxnamon » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:42 pm

i just think getting a good ableton book and maybe video tutorials to supplement the manual would be enough. and don't forget the forum.. ask questions here and sometimes it takes a while but you will get your answer. I don't think you will learn anything in dubspot that you can't get from the home schooling suggested.. spend the money on some videos and books which shouldn't cost more than $100 or so and invest in some music classes instead like intro piano, music theory, etc... i think those would be more beneficial..

the only advantages of dubspot are

1. your in a classroom environment so you will tend to focus more, especially with assignments.. might force you to learn more. some people need that environment to thrive cuz they don't have the discipline to study at home (turning of the tv would be good)

2. you network with like minded people and possibly build contacts and friends (you have the forum, we're all friends here.. most of the time)

3. paying $3000 would definitely force you to learn it to remove the guilt from "shit, I just spent $3000 on a 6 month course that I could have learned on my own".
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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by necho » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:43 pm

$3000?!?!?!?

I would buy a load of gear.

I generally think that tuition of this kind is a bit of a waste of money - unless you have loads of cash. Get some of Nick's Tutorials!
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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by buzby » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:05 pm

thanks guys

the - buy loads of gear opinion is ok but buying $3000 worth of gear isnt going to improve my understanding of whatever it is i need to learn - i have 2 novation midi controllers, i would like a akaiapc40 but buying it wont necessarily improve my knowledge of ableton - plus i travel quite a lot and cant carry more than a couple of controller etc

vids and manuals are cheaper but like i said, this isnt always my train of thought

for example and in brief - many years ago there was a situation where i spent the last of money in aussie on a train ticket to the adelaide fringe festival - in most peoples eyes there was no way i should have spent that last money on going to a fest when i did nt have enough money to even pay for a hostel or eat - i ended up trading my camera as security at the hostel until i earned some $$

t the outcome in a break down of events was as follows

arrived broke - met amazing people - introduced to australian didgeridoo at the festival - invited to do 3 months informal study at aboriginal art centre - practiced didge for several years whilst traveling - moved to iceland where i was the only person in the country who had any experience with instrument - as a result i landed an insane amount of work, i totally cornered the market ... schools, gigs, talks, courses, private lessons, importing instruments etc - at that time when icelandic economy was strong i was getting paid an insane amount of money for this work - ie. i was often paid around 200 euros for 15 minute lectures at conferences etc - whatever the work i was never earning less than 50 euros an hour - embarked on a project to bring 3 Yolngu aboriginals to iceland, i was invited to aboriginal land reserve in north australia as part of the project - amazing experience - completed the project which was described by iceland's major at the time as one of the most important cultural contributions to iceland

sorry if that sounds all ego but this is my way of thinking - im not flush with money to be paying $3000 for this course but lets say i have a gut feeling to do it - i might learn more by studying vids and books and save money by staying at home but at the moment i dont want to take this path - even though i do watch vids and read the forums

saying that i wil check out all of the options posted on here and thanks again for all input and sorry if i strayed off topic a bit
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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by smartass303 » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:39 pm

iceland is broke nowadays, isnt it?

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Re: dubspot courses - anyone been?

Post by buzby » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:02 pm

smartass303 wrote:iceland is broke nowadays, isnt it?

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yah man - very broke

im in denmark at the moment -
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