Joystick as midi controller?

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mersault
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Joystick as midi controller?

Post by mersault » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:56 am

I know this isn't a new idea. Is anybody here doing it with Live though? ...if so, how?

...and could anybody suggest a program to do this on a mac? ...there's some cool joysticks out there and I thought it would be cool, even if just for XY controls.

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by sinnatagg » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:04 am

mersault wrote:I know this isn't a new idea. Is anybody here doing it with Live though? ...if so, how?

...and could anybody suggest a program to do this on a mac? ...there's some cool joysticks out there and I thought it would be cool, even if just for XY controls.
A friend of mine uses to joysticks for his livesets, but it's with a PC though. PM me if you want to get in touch with him. He plays regularly here in Oslo and elsewhere so the sticks are quite road tested by now.

I've offered him a set of steering wheels and pedals too, so he can drive the set around :mrgreen: but somehow that's not his style and the joysticks are :roll:


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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by chapelier fou » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:04 am

I use plogue bidule for this. You can also use max.
And I know there must be freewares for that, too.
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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by epiphanius » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:52 pm

Junxion:

http://www.steim.org/steim/junxion_v4.html

There is a lite version, with an upgrade to the full one, which supports several protocals (e.g.OSC, MIDI). Very powerful.

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by ghostly » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:53 am

Junxion looks like a really cool app, but 75 quid? 8O C'mon!

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by logic_user99 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:51 am

chapelier fou wrote:I use plogue bidule for this. You can also use max.
And I know there must be freewares for that, too.
+1 for Bidule. It's great for back-end contoller config stuff...
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mersault
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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by mersault » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:03 am

Bidule looks cool, but more than what I'm looking for. I'm just looking for a sort of "patch" to link a joystick to map to midi in Live. Junxion looks like its on the right track, but so expensive!

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by outershpongolia » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:07 am

Wiidi - Wiimote MIDI, I've also heard of Xbox 360 controllers controlling live wirelessly, Nintendo DS.

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:15 am

mersault wrote:Bidule looks cool, but more than what I'm looking for. I'm just looking for a sort of "patch" to link a joystick to map to midi in Live. Junxion looks like its on the right track, but so expensive!
So here is my idea :
Ask someone to do exactly what you want in max, then you can use the patch in max runtime. I can check it out, but I really would prefer not, since I don't really knox the "hid" object, and since I really have no time these days, uh, weeks, uh, months.
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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by outershpongolia » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:37 am

^^ haha so did you offer to check it out and then flake out mid-sentence, lol

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by pepezabala » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:56 am

oh shit, on my old ibook I had a program installed that allowed me to use a 5$ usb joystick as midi controller. And no, it wasn't junxion or a max-hack, it was a little shareware application. It had a nagscreen that cam up everytime when I booted the computer. I don't remember the name.

It worked flawlessly, and during some time I used the game controller during my sets for applying effects.

Today I use the wiimote with osculator and I am quite happy with it. I believe osculator recognizes also other devices, could be that your joystick gets recognized as well.

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by rozling » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:52 am

Osculator's great and works with quirky stuff like the 3Dconnexion Spacenavigator which I just picked up. Peepzabala what kind of adapter do you use for the Wiimote?

That shareware app, would it have been rejoice?

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:04 pm

outershpongolia wrote:^^ haha so did you offer to check it out and then flake out mid-sentence, lol
:lol:
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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by pepezabala » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:33 pm

now I remember. It was USB Overdrive:
http://www.usboverdrive.com/USBOverdriv ... ation.html

It actually doesn't convert joystick to midi, but it let's you convert gamepad messages to keys or keystrokes etc. So I assigned keys, not midi notes or CCs to the gamepad.

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Re: Joystick as midi controller?

Post by mersault » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:48 am

I'm sorry if this is what you meant, but are any of you actually using Osculator with live? How is it on plug-ins?

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