Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

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Re: Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

Post by Cyberstar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:00 am

leedsquietman wrote:Guys - it's pretty obvious that Cakewalk (Sonar) took this from Project 5, their lame Ableton Live-alike software they brought out about 5 years ago which failed, so they stopped supporting it 2 or 3 years ago.

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Damn this shite must have been lame I've never heard of it till today.
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Re: Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

Post by Gargoyle » Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:18 pm

project 5s arp is better than anyone elses.
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Re: Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

Post by kb420 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:15 pm

Project 5 had it's own serious hardcore fanboys who were crushed when they found out it's development was over. I used P5 before I learned about Live, and in my opinion, it was Cakewalk's attempt at duplicating Live.

Even now with Sonar 8.5, some of the users are asking for features that the new Groove Matrix can't deliver, but are common in Live:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1873129


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Re: Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

Post by outershpongolia » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:25 pm

kb420 wrote:Just remember, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
That reminds me of this:
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Re: Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

Post by ethios4 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:41 pm

This is why it is essential that Ableton get their session view quirks worked out, rewrite or no.

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Re: Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

Post by gomi » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:48 pm

sporkles wrote:Yikes... That's a pretty blatant rip off in my book.

- "Hey, let's just rotate the scene/track view ninety degrees, and nobody will notice!"
- "Are you sure about that? It seems pretty obvious..."
- "Counter clockwise!!!"
- "Brilliant!"

thats just what windows did to the the mac os... and we all know what happened there.

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Re: Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

Post by humnumb » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:35 pm

Sonar keeps improving the maxtrix view features with 8.5.2:
# Combine Matrix View cells with probabilistic Step Sequencer patterns for some generative music-making
# Drag cells from Matrix View into Track View – a bit like going from Ableton Live’s Session View to Arrange View, but in a more conventional DAW workflow

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