glitchrock-buddha wrote:I guess I'm in the minority here, but I don't think it's that reasonable to demand M4L "runtime" for free or 50 bucks. The thing is going to be packed with new live devices (midi and audio effects, cool granular toysm synths). And a huge percentage of the sales will be from people who will never build a thing. If I were ableton, and I wanted to be fair, I would charge exactly what they are charging.
Just my opinion, but I think people may be expecting a bit much for too little these days.
This whining about "I deserve free shit!" is getting old.
Free M4L runtime? I've got a better idea: just pretend you never heard of M4L and go about your business making music the way you already do.
Also, to those who compare Max Runtime with a possible M4L Runtime: realize that M4L will probably be able to work in Demo Mode as it is, which is conceptually identical to Max Runtime (i.e. you can't save anything in Max Runtime either). A M4L Runtime would be more
than that because you could save your work in Live. The reason Max Runtime exists is so that a patch can be performed
by someone who doesn't have Max installed or has different specs than the creator of the patch. Running Live in demo mode with M4L running as well would be exactly the same functionality (a performance-oriented functionality).
I dunno, I don;t think it's exactly the same in demo mode really, there already is a Max runtime, it's not like this request is unfounded
If you used the Max runtime to use a max created plug-in, you'd still be able to save the plug-in state in Live, even if you couldn't make changes to the plug-in itself
I mean who would want to use any of the devices provided within M4L without saving the state of the parameters? What if you used several of those Pluggos in a Live set?
not really the same thing
I will be really surprised if there is not ever a runtime version, it makes far too much sense, there would be heaps of people (me included) who would seriously consider $99 for a runtime, but not $299 for the full version - I just can't justify it as I'm unlikely to be one of the ones creating my own patches