[OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

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Is red fuller in MS Paint than in Photoshop?

Yes
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21%
No
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13%
Yes, but Live's red is actually redder
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38%
I don't care, I use Pro Tools
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29%
 
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[OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by Gab » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:30 am

I recently noticed that the red color looks warmer, deeper, in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Here are two squares of FF0000 red, the first made in Photoshop, the other in Paint.

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Can anybody explain why? Could that mean that Paint's rendering engine is superior to Photoshop's?
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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by naph » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:39 am

live is redness than those two, expecially with m4l..

BUT you gotta try paintshoppro
it really can do #FF0000 like you've never seen it.

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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by naph » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:41 am

BUT beware.. everybody knows that PT HD is the best choice for #000000 :)

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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by jeskola01 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:51 am

hmm....

Square A and Square B are the same colour.
Don't belive me - take it into photoshop and check the colour refs!

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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by crumhorn » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:17 am

^^^

Are you saying that Live's sound quality depends on your surroundings?
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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by shuutobi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:21 am

Gab wrote:I recently noticed that the red color looks warmer, deeper, in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Here are two squares of FF0000 red, the first made in Photoshop, the other in Paint.

Image Image

Can anybody explain why? Could that mean that Paint's rendering engine is superior to Photoshop's?
Color cop shows that both squares are #ff0201

Regardless that's besides the point, might want to check if your photoshop is using a different color space/icc profile, other than the one of your monitor.
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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by djsynchro » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:34 am

If you would have looked at the path of the picture, you would have seen it's the same picture twice.

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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by shuutobi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:35 am

djsynchro wrote:If you would have looked at the path of the picture, you would have seen it's the same picture twice.
God dammit. I need coffee stat.
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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by henke » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:53 am

What a stupid test!
Every child knows that a red circle is the wrong color for such a test. You need to do it with a random color and change the colors in real time. The test as it is here says absolutely nothing about color quality.

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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by photonal » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:00 pm

It's obviously because MS Paint uses fixed-point processing as opposed to floating point in PS.

MS Paint was always edgier anyway - probably due to it's poor anti-aliasing abilities.

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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by Gab » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:19 pm

photonal wrote:It's obviously because MS Paint uses fixed-point processing as opposed to floating point in PS.
My thought, exactly.
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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by Emissary » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:17 pm

Gab wrote:I recently noticed that the red color looks warmer, deeper, in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Here are two squares of FF0000 red, the first made in Photoshop, the other in Paint.

Image Image

Can anybody explain why? Could that mean that Paint's rendering engine is superior to Photoshop's?
This is odd because i'm sure the one on the left is darker, but they are the same picture :D

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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by blackboab » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:46 pm

you guys are nuts :-)

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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by funky shit » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:49 pm

awesome thread is awesome :lol:
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Re: [OT] #FF0000 looks warmer in MS Paint than in Photoshop

Post by Tarekith » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:57 pm

Both of those squares pass the phase cancel test, so they must be identical.

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