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syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by jamief » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:01 pm

Has anyone foundany reliable way to sync 2 computers over a USB connection. I have a usb midi interface but i,m trying to do away with it and just uses usb leads. Running win 7 64 ultimate, Win xp and Mac osx 10.5.8 but really want to focus on the pc first.

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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by Plague1715 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:16 pm

I think this would be easier to do with a computer-computer network connection.

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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by H20nly » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:27 pm

^ yeah, you should run that over an Ethernet cable or wireless setup using TCP/IP

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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by darkcatt » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:02 pm

is there a guide on how to do this?

Will wireless work?
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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by julienb » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:21 pm

sync can be "transported" over a lot of protocols...
indeed, tcp/ip is a nice one for real time application.
udp is lighter (no flow control) but useful: OSC is often use over udp

tcp or udp can be used over ethernet, wireless or other low level standard.

basic midi link can also be used... no?
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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by H20nly » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:38 pm

darkcatt wrote:is there a guide on how to do this?
yeah its called: The Internet

...basically its creating a network, or more specifically, a home network. a lot of your success will depend on what OS you're using. The OP has 3 different OS flavors so it may be harder for him than someone with 2 Macs or 2 XP machines, but the fundamentals are still the same.

Look up:
NetBIOS
TCP/IP
UDP

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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by jamief » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:45 pm

H20nly wrote:
darkcatt wrote:is there a guide on how to do this?
yeah its called: The Internet

...basically its creating a network, or more specifically, a home network. a lot of your success will depend on what OS you're using. The OP has 3 different OS flavors so it may be harder for him than someone with 2 Macs or 2 XP machines, but the fundamentals are still the same.

Look up:
NetBIOS
TCP/IP
UDP
So you have been able to create a reliable way of syncing two computers running live wihthout midi leads, tested it and proven it to work ?
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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by H20nly » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:57 pm

jamief wrote:Has anyone foundany reliable way to sync 2 computers over a USB connection. I have a usb midi interface but i,m trying to do away with it and just uses usb leads. Running win 7 64 ultimate, Win xp and Mac osx 10.5.8 but really want to focus on the pc first.
You asked about syncing two computers. Yes, I have. I can move files over 3 computers at my house without getting off the couch.

Where I work, there are about 250 computers and all of them connect over ethernet too.

Running Live, no, I use it the way the EULA dictates - on one puter at a time.

USB is a bottleneck waiting to happen if you are dealing with packets that have any size to them.

If you're trying to sync MIDI, thats a slightly separate beast than syncing computers.

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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by 8O » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:31 am

jamief wrote:So you have been able to create a reliable way of syncing two computers running live wihthout midi leads, tested it and proven it to work ?
best
:)
I've seen this question come up every few months on this forum (and I've asked it myself a few times too). Mac to mac is no problem, but Mac to PC or PC to PC... well, I haven't seen a free/cheap proven solution that anyone has shown working on here. In the end I've just used (and subsequently recommended) sticking to using a couple of USB-MIDI interfaces (just a cheap one on a cable will do) and connecting the machines via the interfaces and a traditional MIDI cable. You'd think there'd be a simple and cheap solution out there, but from my experience these threads have been high on suggestions and low on proven working solutions...
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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by 3dot... » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:34 am

H20nly wrote: yeah its called: The Internet
...hehe thought it was a link
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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by 3dot... » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:40 am

8O wrote:
jamief wrote:So you have been able to create a reliable way of syncing two computers running live wihthout midi leads, tested it and proven it to work ?
best
:)
I've seen this question come up every few months on this forum (and I've asked it myself a few times too). Mac to mac is no problem, but Mac to PC or PC to PC...
...so....you're either saying..
MACs can transfer midi timing better over osc->ethernet ?

or ...
Live runs/syncs better on MACs...

which one? :mrgreen:
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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by 3dot... » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:41 am

if that's true..then I'm sold..
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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by 8O » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:42 am

3dot... wrote:
8O wrote:
jamief wrote:So you have been able to create a reliable way of syncing two computers running live wihthout midi leads, tested it and proven it to work ?
best
:)
I've seen this question come up every few months on this forum (and I've asked it myself a few times too). Mac to mac is no problem, but Mac to PC or PC to PC...
...so....you're either saying..
MACs can transfer midi timing better over osc->ethernet ?

or ...
Live runs/syncs better on MACs...

which one? :mrgreen:
:roll: :wink: :lol: I'm saying whichever answer leads to the most peace and harmony...
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Re: syncing 2 computers via usb

Post by darkcatt » Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:28 pm

H20nly wrote:
darkcatt wrote:is there a guide on how to do this?
yeah its called: The Internet

...basically its creating a network, or more specifically, a home network. a lot of your success will depend on what OS you're using. The OP has 3 different OS flavors so it may be harder for him than someone with 2 Macs or 2 XP machines, but the fundamentals are still the same.

Look up:
NetBIOS
TCP/IP
UDP

I was referring to a way to send midi over an IP protocol.
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