OT: No electronic music without power

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OT: No electronic music without power

Post by necho » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:24 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010 ... -factories

So it seems that our energy supplies are running low. You never really hear about this stuff until it starts to happen. (In the UK) All it really takes is for Moscow to turn off the gas and we'll all have to dig out our old acoustic guitars and sit round a campfire.
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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by re.mark » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:39 pm

"If anything there is an oversupply of gas and certainly no shortage at this time. This [the current problem] is about moving it around the country," said a spokesman.

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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by Pasha » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:49 pm

I love guitars and campfires :D
It reminds me when I was younger...
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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by Emissary » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:52 pm

Welcome to the post peak paradigm

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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by 8O » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:53 pm

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Swap the house for an APC40 and you're set.

All you've got to do is source a bank of willing cyclists. Pay them with your beautiful music.
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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by necho » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:57 pm

re.mark wrote:
"If anything there is an oversupply of gas and certainly no shortage at this time. This [the current problem] is about moving it around the country," said a spokesman.
From a BRITISH GAS spokesman.

yeah. do you believe that?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... s-shortage






I want a solar-powered laptop. Maschine and my Firebox are bus-powered, so I should be fine.
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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by necho » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:58 pm

8O wrote:
All you've got to do is source a bank of willing cyclists. Pay them with your beautiful music.
Now THAT'S sustainable :-)
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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by derzai » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:24 pm

They always find reasons to raise the price.

Demand for oil decreased with 10 to 20 percent due to "the crisis", but OPEC got their heads together and lowered the supply correspondingly.

And for what they need all this money, to built half mile high empty skyscrapers in some bankrupt desert state?

Energy companies are like banks, crisis or no crisis, money goes there.

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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by Tarekith » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:27 pm

I actually bought an acoustic guitar last year finally after having the electric company shut off power to the neighborhood to do some repairs once day. Wouldn;t have been a huge deal, but I was really in the mood to do something musical that day, grrr.
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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by 8O » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:19 pm

Emissary wrote:Welcome to the post peak paradigm
Only 15,672 days to go, apparently! (see: http://www.worldometers.info/) No more rubbish TV, yes!
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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by re.mark » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:26 pm

necho wrote:I want a solar-powered laptop. Maschine and my Firebox are bus-powered, so I should be fine.
But how would you power your monitors? :(

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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by UKRuss » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:33 pm

No romance without finance.

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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by necho » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:36 pm

re.mark wrote:
necho wrote:I want a solar-powered laptop. Maschine and my Firebox are bus-powered, so I should be fine.
But how would you power your monitors? :(
Build a hydro-electric dam.

Or use headphones.
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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by anybody human » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:00 pm

derzai wrote:They always find reasons to raise the price.

Demand for oil decreased with 10 to 20 percent due to "the crisis", but OPEC got their heads together and lowered the supply correspondingly.

And for what they need all this money, to built half mile high empty skyscrapers in some bankrupt desert state?

Energy companies are like banks, crisis or no crisis, money goes there.
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I think peak oil theory is somewhat deceptive because of course it's gotta be true in the long term, but that doesn't mean we won't be stuck with oil for a very long time. As you say, it doesn't really follow supply and demand. Nigeria is pumping crazy oil right now cos there's a lull in the fighting there, yet the price doesn't go down. There are tankers just sitting in the Indian Ocean that Wall Street futures traders use to gamble. They drove the price up artificially when it went to $147 in 2008- demand actually was down a tiny bit then- can you believe that?! Also, you would have thought that in a world wide recession they would have dropped the price way down to $20 or $30 a barrel to get the economy going. That's what would have happened as recently as the 80's or even 90's but now our economy is centered around finance. Most of those guys win no matter what happens to regular people.

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Re: OT: No electronic music without power

Post by Emissary » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:00 pm

8O wrote:
Emissary wrote:Welcome to the post peak paradigm
Only 15,672 days to go, apparently! (see: http://www.worldometers.info/) No more rubbish TV, yes!
That Website is a bit misleading. We will never run out of oil, we will come to a point where it uses more energy to take it from the ground than we get from it, at that point it becomes useless. That point is very close. We passed peak in 2005. We are hitting the bumpy plateau before total collapse. The bumpy plateau is the point in history where every time there is an economic recovery the price of oil/energy skyrockets and starts another recession. The trick is working out how many bumps there will be and how much renewable energy can hope to offset it (probably very little)

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