APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

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APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by nowtime » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:39 pm

Just set up my APC40 and every time I click on a clip or a track my BCF motors engage with an unacceptable noise. Same sound that it makes when turning midi-mapping on or off.

I wonder is there a way to filter all that handshaking?

I just opened up Midipipe and am befuddled but i must get it going IF I want to keep this Pro Controller.

I wonder also if the Novation Launchpad causes the same continual messaging that engages the BCF's motors.

thanks!
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by nowtime » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:48 pm

Think I'm ready to give up on the APC after only one hour of use.

REALLY want to know if the Launchpad handshake fucks with the BCF with every session-view maneuver like the APC does.
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by chapelier fou » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:09 pm

Exactly the same here. The control surface script must be refreshing the midi data so it sends midi to the remote out. That is annoying, but I can live with it. It should be improved by ableton, though, since the cc's I am using with the bcf are not used by the launchpad.
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by Dexes » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:40 pm

never noticed this (LP+BCF)
But I have my BCF running in mackie mode where the faders send mod wheel messages, not CC's or note on messages.

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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by chapelier fou » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:47 pm

I made a little investingation with max for monitoring the midi messages.
Everytime you select a track or clip or scene, the LP ouputs two messages :
note 95, velocity 0
CC 90, value 105.

The only solution I see for now is to send the remote out to a virtual bus, filter these messages and resend in my soundcard's midi out.
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by nowtime » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:27 am

chapelier fou wrote:I made a little investingation with max for monitoring the midi messages.
Everytime you select a track or clip or scene, the LP ouputs two messages :
note 95, velocity 0
CC 90, value 105.

The only solution I see for now is to send the remote out to a virtual bus, filter these messages and resend in my soundcard's midi out.
So you have bothe the APC and the LP? And the LP also messes with your BCF?
Am I gonna need Max to solve this? Damn complicated and expensive, huh.
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by nowtime » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:29 am

Dexes wrote:never noticed this (LP+BCF)
But I have my BCF running in mackie mode where the faders send mod wheel messages, not CC's or note on messages.

hmmmmm, going to have to do a little investigation into Mackie Mode. Thanks.
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by Dexes » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:36 am

Dexes wrote:But I have my BCF running in mackie mode where the faders send mod wheel messages, not CC's or note on messages.
scrap that, it's pitch bend, not mod wheel.

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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:45 am

Ok, so, a few question, if you don' t mind, about mackie mode emulation :

- Do I need to update the firmware, and if so, will I lose my presets ?
- Can I remap the knobs to something else than pan ?
- Does it work only in usb modes or is it ok with midi cables ?
- Which emulation so you use ?
- Any bug ?
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by Rabalder » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:55 am

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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:29 am

Why not turning off the computer ?
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:11 am

I sent a message to ableton support. Waiting.
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by Rabalder » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:19 am

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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:28 am

Why are you saying that, is it supposed to be a joke ? Because, you know, if I use motorized faders, that may be because I need it.
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Re: APC+BCF users or Launchpad+BCF users

Post by Rabalder » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:56 am

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