anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

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anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

Post by rekloos » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:19 pm

Not that i need to learn the program since i've used it from version 1 but i would like to be
able to teach and/or give courses, private and in institutions or whenever there's and opportunity.

Has anybody got a certification and if so was it worth it/useful?as far as getting paying jobs?
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Re: anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

Post by Tarekith » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:40 pm

You don't need the certification to teach, you just can't tell people you're Abelton certified.

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Post by ark » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:43 pm

rekloos wrote: Has anybody got a certification and if so was it worth it/useful?as far as getting paying jobs?
For one thing, you get a copy of OIC at no charge.

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Post by Tarekith » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:47 pm

It's like $2000-3000 or something for the certification course if I remember correctly, so I'm not sure I would say "at no charge".

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Re: anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

Post by rekloos » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:07 pm

What exactly is OIC?

I'm aware of the fact that you can take online course like these: http://www.abletoncourses.com/
which are pretty affordable or go the BerkleeMusic route which is a lot more and also goes beyond
getting Live certified.

Has anybody taking any of these courses and got certified? Was it worth it, from a financial point of
view?
or give me your input why i should/should not go any of these routes.....
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Re: anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

Post by Bleep Blop Ima Robot » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:38 pm

im not sure on the whole will the certificate land you a job easier part of it all and pay, but the only thing ive seen people talk about the course is that its pointless and they didnt learn anything really from it. Ive even thought about it but then after reading more on it and when all of that was brought up, decided not to. But im pretty sure if you can find a place of hire, a certificate in anything (AA, BA etc) will increase you chances and will make your resume look a lot better.
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Post by rekloos » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:49 pm

Bleep Blop Ima Robot wrote: a certificate in anything (AA, BA etc) will increase you chances and will make your resume look a lot better.
My point exactly.


Like i've said, i know just about everything there is to know [except for operator which i don't have]
about live and i can easily teach from beginners to advanced courses - i'm just looking for input from other ppl who've gotten certified and how it has been beneficial or not.
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Post by frequentare » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:46 pm

I got certified last year and it was one of the best things I did . I have tons of students and workshops every month, not to mention the contacts and networking of other Ableton teachers and trainers across the globe. It really depends on how far you wanna take it . I ran with mine.

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Post by Tarekith » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:24 pm

What was the cost?

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Post by nebulae » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:03 pm

^dude, check out what these trainers can charge: https://www.dubspot.com/pages/ableton.jsp

To get certified, I'm not sure what the criteria is...
Are you a trainer? Want to get certified? Write to certification@ableton.com. In your e-mail, please note your country of residence and include a short resumé of your teaching experience.
How can I become an Ableton certified trainer?
Please contact certification@ableton.com. In your e-mail, please note your country of residency and include a short resumé of your teaching experience.
What can I expect from an Ableton Certified Trainer?
An Ableton Certified Trainer is an Ableton Live expert who communicates technical information in a clear, concise and engaging manner. To ensure that Ableton Certified Trainers have the instructional skills and technical competency to deliver quality training, Ableton requires all trainers to successfully complete Ableton Trainer Certification. During trainer certification, instructors must demonstrate their expertise in Ableton Live and music production, as well as instructional presentation skills.
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Re: anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

Post by rekloos » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:56 pm

@frequentare

where did you get urs? what courses did u take and what did u pay?
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Re: anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

Post by Illiac » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:18 am

One of the best decisions I ever made. Also an expensive decision.

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Re: anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

Post by Michael Hatsis » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:03 am

Gots me a cert. The whole process was a fun time- A whole weekend where like 5 other ableton & music gurus got together and shared knowledge. A few people around my way boast that they have it, advertise and stuff, was kinda annoying cause i know i knew more about ableton and production in general, but they got the certificate, just a piece of paper though, but they win...

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Re: anybody got ableton "certified" ? is it useful?

Post by H20nly » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:17 am

its all about the money. depends what you do with it...


I don't know that I would be able to charge someone that with a straight face. Learning cool tricks is cool. With a cert you can charge more upfront but experience is experience. Being self taught and capable is a cool feat though. With computers, its what you know, now.

if getting a cert will help you learn and you use it to make decent money then you win. if you don't use it... then the school wins. Odds are on the house...

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