What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by UKRuss » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:20 pm

It must have somethig to do with the real time processing that a bit of hardware can perform on analogue audio signals that simply cannot be rpelatced real time in the digital realm.

There would always be lag, making it unusable live.

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by soundsliketree » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:55 pm

I thought of that, but there are a few attempts out there that at least prove that it's possible. Mu Voice, for instance - but at least in that case they haven't got it right yet - still missing the ability to define scales beyond the normal diatonic modes...

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by bulo » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:14 pm

If you don't have m4L, then have a look at Amplitube (from IK Multimedia). It has a guitar harmonizer with a cool grain.
Audiowish has affordable pitch manipulation plug-ins, if you rack them you can make an harmonizer.
http://www.audiowish.com/
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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by LoopStationZebra » Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:43 am

Funny, I've been looking for just such a plug recently without much luck.

Many of them were released ages ago and don't want to play nice with Live8/OSX.

The Audiowish is okay, but doesn't give you the option of simultaneously listening to your original note. ?

Still looking for a good harmonizer/octaver plug. Got a nice octaver on my Pod X3 Live, and even a plug version of that which is included with Pod Farm. Problem is that the entire Pod Farm plug needs to be installed and it's a CPU HOG.
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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by juanlittledevil » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:54 pm

So put together a device chain using only Live's plugins, and came up with a very crude chromatic harmonizer. It's not by any means very accurate nor do I claim for it to be an option to one of the commercial plugs, but you can totally use it for some creative sound design and vocal treatment.

I know some of you guys are gurus at this so if you make some upgrades to my device chain please share it with us. I've spend countless hours designing, testing, mapping, and documenting this device and I'm giving it to you guys for free. I just ask that if you change it for the better that you give some luv back...


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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by uberdavis » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:44 pm

OK, I'm coming to the party a bit late here, but I've got another solution:
The pitch shift effect in Guitar Rig.
You can use it in combination with the Splitter Tool in Guitar Rig to produce a good clean harmonizer effect.
It works in real time too...

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by soundsliketree » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:13 pm

thanks for the idea. this wouldn't allow for diatonic (scale-based) pitch shifting though, right?

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by João Genial » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:07 pm

I'm new to live, But I've been searching for harmonizer options for some time, since i´m a singer and pianist.
You have the hardware options witch are better for the real time thing and u have software options.

Hardware: The best u can guet is here http://www.tc-helicon.com/.

Software u have:
http://www.mu-technologies.com
http://vielklang.zplane.de/index.php?page=video

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by wildcon » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:44 pm

Hi,

I'm sure I read recently (maybe Future Music or SOS) that Eventide would be bringing out their legendary harmoniser
as a plug-in.

I believe it does 'intelligent' harmonising.

Steve Vai used to use it a lot I think.

It's not on their site yet.

Just seen it's likely to be March
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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by soundsliketree » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:00 am

Sarrova-Q wrote:This is probably what you want:
http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=7133
Thanks for posting.
This is a very cool plug-in but it's not by itself a harmonizer. If you feed it a pitch shifted signal it can help this signal conform to a scale - but this a workaround, and it's not really what the plug is designed to do, as far as understand. Also, I get about 102ms latency on my 2.8Ghz Macbook Pro, so it's not really ready for live use as a harmonizer. Still, I'll bet there are some very interesting, creative uses of this plug waiting to be discovered.


I would be very excited to purchase an Eventide harmonizer AU - to say the least.

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by soundsliketree » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:27 pm

filterstein wrote:Your prayer has been heard.

http://rekkerd.org/eventide-announces-n ... r-plugins/

Oh dear lordy.

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by mholloway » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:43 pm

oh crap I want both of those, especially the H3000.....uggghh gear lust never dies. crap crap crap.

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Re: What do you think is the best harmonizer for Live?

Post by soundsliketree » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:15 pm

http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/P ... ctory.aspx

So this has been out for a bit...
Can anyone report on its latency when used live? Is it comparable to the hardware unit? Better?

Thanks!

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