Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.

Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Poll ended at Sun May 23, 2010 5:00 pm

Yes
25
34%
No
35
48%
The Maschine idea sounds good regardless the crashing
3
4%
Dammit not another bitchy crash thread
10
14%
 
Total votes: 73

HeadrickProductions
Posts: 612
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:41 pm

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by HeadrickProductions » Tue May 18, 2010 11:01 pm

109 view....34 votes. Does not add up does it?
In a K induced Haze (the old K kind not the special K kind ), but an Asian spizz can sometimes bring me out! If ya don't get it, ya never will.

Swing like your life depends on it

Tone Deft
Posts: 24152
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:19 pm

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by Tone Deft » Tue May 18, 2010 11:14 pm

most people don't play live.
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz

tlennon
Posts: 1627
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:58 am
Location: New Jersey
Contact:

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by tlennon » Tue May 18, 2010 11:43 pm

HeadrickProductions wrote:109 view....34 votes. Does not add up does it?
And a few come through multiple times to review the comments.
Terrence Lennon
Image

bodhi71
Posts: 626
Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:07 pm

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by bodhi71 » Tue May 18, 2010 11:52 pm

No, I wouldn't want to try at this point in the game.
Had big plans to utilize it within the context of my band, but it seems to know whenever I go somewhere else other than the home studio and acts up like a retarded child. :roll:
How does it know!



Fingers crossed for a stable version.
I bought into the whole Live package (suite, max, APC 40 lots of 3rd party stuff relevant to Live), guess I've committed myself to see this through but at least at home I can always restart the program.

darkmelody
Posts: 44
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:59 am

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by darkmelody » Wed May 19, 2010 12:40 am

I would answer yes and no. i.e. I have gone back to using 7 when I play live, which is super stable (for me)

lapieuvre
Posts: 759
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:29 pm

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by lapieuvre » Wed May 19, 2010 3:18 am

Never had a crash for more than 40 shows:
8.1.1
MBP 2018, 16 GB Ram, OSX 10.15.7
MBP M1 Max 64 GB Ram, OSX 14.3.1
Live 10.1.43 Suite
Live 11.3.21
Live 12 Beta
Interface : Apollo Twin duo

mersault
Posts: 78
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:49 am

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by mersault » Wed May 19, 2010 3:25 am

I've used Live live many times - both in conjunction with a live band and straight up as a dj - other people who I work with use it too. I don't feel completely comfortable, but that's always the case with anything that plugs in. If you're DJing and by yourself, have an ipod ready as insurance. I'd rather have an awkward, random transition than a moment of complete silence.

luddy
Posts: 791
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:36 am
Location: Beijing
Contact:

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by luddy » Wed May 19, 2010 6:38 am

I've used it a lot on stage. I've had one failure, but I attributed it to my Macbook Pro (overheating) and not to Live.

I stay away from 3d party plug-ins when using it Live. I think this helps tremendously in keeping it stable and light.

-Luddy

bosonHavoc
Posts: 1936
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:34 am
Location: Austin, Texas
Contact:

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by bosonHavoc » Wed May 19, 2010 7:10 am

i can't remember the last time live crashed on me while performing live, glitchs, crackles, pops ya.. but that is mostly due to how hard i push the MBP
and some VSTs that are having issues

pepezabala
Posts: 3501
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:29 pm
Location: In Berlin, finally

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by pepezabala » Wed May 19, 2010 11:08 am

been using live 8 through it's various iterations since one year, and had no crash live. I trust it.

What I wouldn't do during liveshows:

- drag livesets or clips including instruments from the browser into the playing set - sometimes crashes or hanging
- press the global record button (as I have lots of midi-cc-data coming in from the wii and elsewhere, that's too much for my little macbook - crash or hanging after a couple of minutes
- use looper while being midi-sync-slave - horrible noise

Ah, and I nearly don't use any 3rd party vst's (only some livecut and a pitch-plug, everything else is native)


But you should be prepared for a crash anyways, as all cumpoters suck and do horrible stuff sometimes. The last big thing we did was a score for a danceplay in a theatre with 500 people. so we had Live running live and a CD with a rendered version of the set as back up running parallel.

On liveshows we usually play with two computers, and if one crashes, then the other one can improvise. As I said, mine did not crashever, while my partner has always issues. But I believe they are related to his ridiculously bloated live set (he uses like 58 channels and 12 return channels, and everything is full of racks and strange routing tricks).

SubFunk
Posts: 7853
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:41 pm
Location: A Big Toilet Called Berlin
Contact:

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by SubFunk » Wed May 19, 2010 11:13 am

pepezabala wrote:)But you should be prepared for a crash anyways, as all cumpoters suck and do horrible stuff sometimes. The last big thing we did was a score for a danceplay in a theatre with 500 people. so we had Live running live and a CD with a rendered version of the set as back up running parallel.
definitely, no matter what, if you consider yourself professional you always have to have a backup in your pocket, an iPod or CD can be enough to overcome any eventual restart or fix.
*** Image GAFM ***

davepermen
Posts: 2198
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:38 pm
Location: Switzerland
Contact:

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by davepermen » Wed May 19, 2010 11:18 am

and that's why i am not scared on using anything live. i always have some way to fallback.
http://davepermen.net my tiny webpage, including link to bandcamp.

supamonsta
Posts: 2621
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: The Lounge
Contact:

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by supamonsta » Wed May 19, 2010 11:28 am

voted "NO", but running live 7.0.18

sometimes it crashes, but, interestingly, NEVER when I play live... (live 6 , and now 7, never crashed for me in a live situation, since 3 years of use and about 25 live shows... (amateur side))

it's allways when opening / deleting VSTs when composing, and it's really rare.

cheers

squelcht
Posts: 1897
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:38 am

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by squelcht » Wed May 19, 2010 11:58 am

Thanks for all your input guys - The vote seems to swing equally both ways... Fuck this I'm going back to all analog. :P

supamonsta
Posts: 2621
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: The Lounge
Contact:

Re: Anyone else scared to use Live LIVE?

Post by supamonsta » Wed May 19, 2010 12:19 pm

Fuck this I'm going back to all analog.
cool, get a good ol'RS7000, or a mpc4000... :mrgreen:

Post Reply