What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

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What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by BoxDJ » Wed May 26, 2010 11:51 pm

Do you produce with your song mostly with Ableton sounds and effects or third party VST and and third party effect processors?

My productions are 90% Ableton.

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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by HeadrickProductions » Thu May 27, 2010 12:22 am

BoxDJ wrote:Do you produce with your song mostly with Ableton sounds and effects or third party VST and and third party effect processors?

My productions are 90% Ableton.

something like 5-10% comes from ableton, mainly just use it as a host
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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by Rabalder » Thu May 27, 2010 7:41 am

Sounds: 0%
Effects: 80%

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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by Pasha » Thu May 27, 2010 8:48 am

Sounds 90% (Zebra2 + JV1010 Roland 10%)
Effects 90% (Except when recording distorted guitar - Zoom 9030)
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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by leedsquietman » Thu May 27, 2010 9:01 am

Sounds 30-60% (Suite has quite a lot of useful content) depending on the project. Many virtual synths for electronic projects means Live's devices are used less than when I'm doing pop/rock productions, where stuff like the EIC sounds/instrument racks, Electric and Tension come in handy.


FX - 15-20% mostly EQ8 and Compressor only on tracks, everything else 3rd party.

As a compositional / host DAW - about 85% of my tracks. Most of what I write in all genres starts off in Live.

As a DAW for mixing/mix finalizing - about 30%, I mostly use Cubase 5 which is IMO better suited for this.
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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by gp23 » Thu May 27, 2010 9:16 am

I use Live for virtually everything. The only other software I use is Guitar Rig. I spend a lot of time creating instrument and effects racks in Live and can happily get practically any kind of sound I require. To be honest, I dislike using VSTs. I've used good sounding ones in the past that haven't played nicely with Live, so that is a factor in why I now work harder to stay within Live. I also prefer the integration with Live's own devices. I have some Kaoss Pads and external guitar FX, but they are rarely used.

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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by SubFunk » Thu May 27, 2010 9:45 am

10% - 20% ableton.

i totally dislike the plugs (well, i just have much better ones to choose from), and the library i didn't found great either, compared to other sources i have.

they are not really bad, bad (not really wow! either though)... i just have better choices all around.

what i really like about ableton is the session view / clips.
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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by chapelier fou » Thu May 27, 2010 10:14 am

Sounds : 13,8% if you consider operator homemade sounds.
Effects : 90%. The rest is plogue bidule, and KT Granulator.
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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by 8O » Thu May 27, 2010 10:39 am

Sounds: about 30% - mostly Operator. The other 70% is samples and hardware synths.

Effects: about 60% - mostly midi effects and tweaked racks, though it's getting less and less as I discover new 3rd party SW.
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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by sporkles » Thu May 27, 2010 10:46 am

Sounds: varies from project to project, but Operator is always an integral part. 10-20%, perhaps.
Effects: 98.3 percent. You can do so much with Live's built in effects, so I don't bother too much with VST's.

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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by SubFunk » Thu May 27, 2010 11:16 am

sporkles wrote:You can do so much with Live's built in effects, so I don't bother too much with VST's.
i don't want to break a huge discussion loose, but i personally think that live's onboard effects are the main reason for the still widespread
'live's audio engine sucks' perception (and the not to great warping algos). once you discover what some 3rd party plugs are like... then... the perception towards live's plugs changes.
i honestly don't think they are that bad, just not really great either.

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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by Tarekith » Thu May 27, 2010 1:47 pm

Sounds = Roughly 10-30%, typically I use Omnisphere, Synplant or Zebra2.

Effects = 90%, Live's work fine for my needs most of the time. I have the wonderful sounding Uhbik plug ins, but rarely use them for some reason.

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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by coldbuggin » Thu May 27, 2010 1:51 pm

Sounds: 10%
Effects: 25% (eq8 mostly!)

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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by Tamar UK » Thu May 27, 2010 2:07 pm

I do almost everything exclusively in Ableton now, either with operator or with home made samples, the only vst i sometimes use is Ozone on the master but I am the first to admit I am clueless as to the internal workings of Ozone and rely on tweaked presets.
I already went the route of buying endless VSTs and hardware when i used Pro Tools and to be honest, all I ended up with was a bunch of similar sounding synths and effects that I never got round to fully exploring. So now with Ableton I set a self imposed rule, I don't buy any other gear unless it is something that would really improve my workflow (ie my APC 40) and definitely no soft synths/effects until i have properly explored everything that Ableton can do, so that won't be anytime soon then.

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Re: What Percentage of Your Sounds and Effects Come From Ableton

Post by Cryptic UK » Thu May 27, 2010 3:08 pm

About half the percent comes from my usage.
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