FaX-01 wrote: supster wrote:
No we're LATE 30's which means U know we remember cool stuff like early Front 242 , Cabaret Voltaire , 80's electro , PIL , Afrika Bambatta , Aux 88 ,British Electric Foundation ,Ska , Dub , Reggae old skool friggin CREDIBLE Hip Hop , early Detroit techno acetates etc etc etc and
early Underground Resitance and FFRR/WaxTrax releases.
The whole ACID house explosion yeah you bet it was a fuggin' blast and the focus wasn't on some hype merchant DJ it was on THE MUSIC believe it or not.
So much of it isn't "ground breaking anymore" - I don't however say all of it is utter shite. Alot of it is though.
Maybe the vibes just as fresh for you young whiper snappers ???
But there was nuttin' like droping your first microdot (yeah I was young and foolish once
) and freakin' out to Stakkers Humanoid the first time I heard it.
Or early 808 State , baby ford , A guy called Gerald ,D-Mob yada yada yada I sound like a broken record hehehehehehehe.
Those where the days.
Never really understood the whole Ecstacy thing though myself
never ever appealed to me . It all went to shite with E IMHO.
The music was just as great straight as it was if you where bit twisted back in the day nowadays I just find it mind numbingly unlistenable
You know, I keep coming back to this thread because I think its so interesting ... its not really about one guy (Sasha) so much as it is about the state of electronic music as a whole ...
Truthfully, we're not all *that* far apart in age
I remember a lot of the same music. So does Sasha
But my perception of what is going on is totally different from yours.
Honestely man - I can tell by your posts - and some of the others in these threads, that you really (truly) have not heard a lot of what is out there now. Have not *really* listened to it.
Because, if you appreciate 808 State, or Front 42, or 80's electro ( the non-dorky variety), or PIL, or Jarre, or Vangellis, or ... etc etc etc ..
*And* you had the chance to hear a variety of modern dance tracks - and listen objectively - you would probably really dig it. Yes a lot of it sounds the same. Yes there is a lot of trash.
Partly because technology - like LIve - has advanced to the point where anyone can build a home studio with 100x more potential than anything Caberet Voltaire or even Vangellis himself had access to. Any KID can have it in thier bedroom. Doesnt make you an artist ...
Part of the art of DJing is finding the quality tracks and mixing them. Which is what our whole scene is based around. MIXING music in a seamless whole that moves you in new ways.
Part the difference between a GOOD DJ and a BAD DJ is that they supposedly should have access to quality and know the difference.
The producers understand that. The DJ's do. Often they are one and
Everyone accepts it. This scene is built on these ideas ..
If you have musical sense, I challenge you to listen to Airdrawndagger or Involver (his last 2 artist releases) ... all the way thru ... more than once
... and honestly tell me that they are utter complete, unoriginal, worthless crap. It might not be exactly your sound, might not be to your taste ... but what he has been doing is at least an admirable attempt at quality art.
Like the last gentleman stated - dont hate the player just because.
imo electronic music of the past couple of years is better than it ever has been. YES theres more crap. But if you know where to look, there is also WAY more diverse, creative, great stuff being done than there ever has been in history.
You just have to go out and find it, and keep your ears open.