Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

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Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by vasyL » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:52 am

Hei all: Odd question.

Does anyone know of a sampler that is similar to Ableton' that is hardware.

1. Sample a sound
2. Interpret said sound over different notes > I call this a Sample Synth
3. play said sound with a midi controller.
4. toggle between different Sample Synths.

And this is not my first stop.
I have spent hours and hours looking at Roland, MPC and Korg stuff, I am just lost.

Ableton does it all, but I am going places where my computer cant.

Thanks a lot.
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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by ark » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:06 am

vasyL wrote: Does anyone know of a sampler that is similar to Ableton' that is hardware.
The Elektron Octatrack is supposed to do that, but it's just a sampler, and isn't available yet so we don't know for sure.

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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by vasyL » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:30 am

hei ark:
ya I saw the OctaTrack, looks pretty sweet but it isnt out yet and i think it going to cost around 1400 Euro.
But you are right, i think that is a solution. and i love scandinavians!
http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack

any other suggestions. Damn, Ableton is the solution for so much.
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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by logic_user99 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:26 am

'A sample synth'? You mean 'a sampler', right? That's what samplers DO...

Just buy an Akai S3000 and an Atari with a tracker on it. Instant win.
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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by jlgrimes » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:33 am

I'd say a kurzweil k2000

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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by arctic ranger » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:02 am

e-mu ultra family can be had for about 300 bucks these days

excellent sound, decent memory, very routable

i had one for a couple of years, then lent it to a friend who was robbed :x
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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by vasyL » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:26 am

jlgrimes wrote:I'd say a kurzweil k2000
genius!

you sent my audio life on a tangent.
I thank you kind sir.

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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by vasyL » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:31 am

arctic ranger!!!!
living near the coast are you....
I have a nunavut song that you have to hear, made of samples that I found on a compact disc in Churchill at the museum and then mixed in the control center of an old rocket launching facility turned science center for northern studies. it was made with ableton in a Northern lights observation bubble in deep winter february, with them dancing away. but that is another story.
arctic ranger wrote:e-mu ultra family can be had for about 300 bucks these days
excellent sound, decent memory, very routable

:x
wow: that is another winner.
you have set me on the right track.



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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by vasyL » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:45 am

logic_user99 wrote:'A sample synth'? You mean 'a sampler', right? That's what samplers DO...
and yes i mean a sampler like a sampler synth
The reason why i say synth is that i am a dummy.

I like on ableton that you can dump a sample per key.

For example, I had my friend jenny cacaphonix sing into a condenser mic.
random notes et al. I cut up the audio file in ableton to gain a long-ish note.
I think shaped that note. put the the note in the Transcribe software to get exact note.
I would then put that note into the sampler say in the Db key slot if the note was Db.
I would then interpret that note over a few whole step; Db-D-Eb-E-F and Db-C-B-Bb-A. or whatever sounds nice and not to distorted.
Then i would go looking for another note in the audio file of jenny's voice, repeat.

Eventually i would fill a few octaves with say 4- 6 samples per octave.

The "sample synth" was not simply one sample interpreted over say 3 octaves,
it is a collection of a dozen or so samples over 3 or 4 octaves.
Since the samples are not the same, this creates a unique voice organ feel with interesting colour to it.
So if my sample synth is just a sampler, then let the games begin.

oh the jenny-organ, how much fun we have with audio.
get a condenser mic!
logic_user99 wrote:' Just buy an Akai S3000 and an Atari with a tracker on it. Instant win.
I think Sigur Ros uses one of those.
Man, this is a good suggestion too.
logic_user99 wrote:' an Atari with a tracker on it. Instant win.
ha atari!
love the box PC graphics.
what would you suggest for the atari.

Thank you I will have to dive deeper into these.
Leave the pads for the pad players.

instant win!

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Re: Simliar HARDWARE sampler as Ableton Sampler Question

Post by snakedogman » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:32 pm

vasyL wrote:Hei all: Odd question.

Does anyone know of a sampler that is similar to Ableton' that is hardware.

1. Sample a sound
2. Interpret said sound over different notes > I call this a Sample Synth
3. play said sound with a midi controller.
4. toggle between different Sample Synths.

And this is not my first stop.
I have spent hours and hours looking at Roland, MPC and Korg stuff, I am just lost.

Ableton does it all, but I am going places where my computer cant.

Thanks a lot.
VasyL ko
I'd say you've just pretty much described every hardware sampler :)
Granted I've never owned one myself but still this is what I understand any sampler would do.
And yes you can get old Akai S-series, EMU Ultra, or Yamaha samplers very cheaply these days on the second hand market.

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