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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:24 pm
by gerard
I was just working on a song and had horrible crackles all all all the time @ 40% CPU. Installed 8.1.4. and the crackles are gone. Could it be that 1year and a half later, it's starting to get bett... no I won't say it. still too soon to be sure.

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:02 am
by pr0jekt2501
If I just want the program without any of the presets & audio content, can I install the program only file without having a previous version installed ? (I'd try this myself but am at work atm )

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:22 am
by fraxyl
Carl Lofgren wrote:Might already start a thread on this.

8.1.3 are old pants now - 8.1.4 is the future.

Less problems than before? Downloading as I write.
I <3 my old pants.

That being said, downloading some new pants right now.

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:26 am
by The Carpet Cleaner
where are the changelogs?
And I dont get the "new installer". On the download page it s the same deal as before, download suite or normal version.

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:20 am
by julienb
afraid of upgrading ... cause I'm performing on next saturday..
so sorry guys, I cannot be one of yours here.

I'll do that after this day :)

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:25 am
by fraxyl
Upgraded and I was running it for about an hour mucking about with the partner instrument compilation, seems stable enough.

I forgot to add earlier that I really like the download options!

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:47 am
by Dennis DeSantis
Hi folks,

Some answers to questions so far:

- Changelogs will be coming within the next couple hours. They weren't ready at the same time as the software, and we didn't want to wait.

- Projects made in 8.1.4 can be opened in 8.1.3. They cannot, however, be opened in versions prior to 8.1.3.

- Some users mentioned crashes with 8.1.4. Can you provide more info?

Thanks,

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:55 am
by Carl Lofgren
Dennis DeSantis wrote: - Projects made in 8.1.4 can be opened in 8.1.3. They cannot, however, be opened in versions prior to 8.1.3.
Is is unique for only the 8.1.4 version or will it also be the case for future version? Ie. up till 8.9.9?

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:03 am
by Dennis DeSantis
Carl Lofgren wrote:
Dennis DeSantis wrote: - Projects made in 8.1.4 can be opened in 8.1.3. They cannot, however, be opened in versions prior to 8.1.3.
Is is unique for only the 8.1.4 version or will it also be the case for future version? Ie. up till 8.9.9?
It SHOULD be the case throughout the 8.x cycle, but it largely depends on what you have included in your Set. For example, if we introduce a feature in 8.x.x that didn't exist in a previous release, then Sets saved that use that feature will obviously have some sort of incompatibility issue when opened in older versions.

Best,

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:18 am
by 3phase
Dennis DeSantis wrote:
Carl Lofgren wrote:
Dennis DeSantis wrote: - Projects made in 8.1.4 can be opened in 8.1.3. They cannot, however, be opened in versions prior to 8.1.3.
Is is unique for only the 8.1.4 version or will it also be the case for future version? Ie. up till 8.9.9?
It SHOULD be the case throughout the 8.x cycle, but it largely depends on what you have included in your Set. For example, if we introduce a feature in 8.x.x that didn't exist in a previous release, then Sets saved that use that feature will obviously have some sort of incompatibility issue when opened in older versions.

Best,

that is very much better than a program that refuses to open slightly newer files at all.. in the end of the day the clips with theire start and end points, loopsettings are the main thing one needs to transfer when working together with somebody that is still on an older version. would be nice if such an upward compatibility for at least that basic data could be kept also for all the future versions of live

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:50 am
by Dennis DeSantis
3phase wrote:that is very much better than a program that refuses to open slightly newer files at all.. in the end of the day the clips with theire start and end points, loopsettings are the main thing one needs to transfer when working together with somebody that is still on an older version. would be nice if such an upward compatibility for at least that basic data could be kept also for all the future versions of live
Indeed, that would be ideal, but it can't always be guaranteed.

For example, we completely changed the way warping works in Live 8. Allowing clips made with Live 8 to be compatible with Live 7 would be very difficult.

Best,

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:08 am
by 3phase
Dennis DeSantis wrote:
3phase wrote:that is very much better than a program that refuses to open slightly newer files at all.. in the end of the day the clips with theire start and end points, loopsettings are the main thing one needs to transfer when working together with somebody that is still on an older version. would be nice if such an upward compatibility for at least that basic data could be kept also for all the future versions of live
Indeed, that would be ideal, but it can't always be guaranteed.

For example, we completely changed the way warping works in Live 8. Allowing clips made with Live 8 to be compatible with Live 7 would be very difficult.

Best,
a little converter program could have done the job here..besides.. the old warping only knows the start and the end point and the loop setting for the majority of clips on is using all this trasnient markers are an extra.. i think it wuld have been possible to get that upward compatible.. maybe not with 100% accuracy... but just with start/end and tempe would be well enough to safe a hell of time or the session at all when working with people that are still on an older version..anyway..its too late for that now..

but just regarding the future... for a coder a half data set is lethal.. a no go..game over...

for a musican a half data set is a new track..much better than no data set..

so even a not well working upward compatibility is better than none..maybe even creates funky results

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:38 am
by Carl Lofgren
Dennis DeSantis wrote: Indeed, that would be ideal, but it can't always be guaranteed.

For example, we completely changed the way warping works in Live 8. Allowing clips made with Live 8 to be compatible with Live 7 would be very difficult.
True - but not being to load a project made in Live 8.1.1 with a 8.09 version is just plain loony. Please don't revert to the old ways again.
Anyway, this is all good news. So far.

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:12 pm
by Jorge3
I've been extremely troubled by crackles between some clips in the Arrangement view in almost every my project since 8.0. There's a thread on this problem:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112868

It has nothing to do with CPU usage or warp modes or warp markers. Fading off a large portion of the clips' ends sometimes muffles out the crackles, but sometimes doesn't (and when it does, it silences so much of the clips that the solution isn't practical). Consolidating or exporting the clips do nothing either. I'm stuck because of this, and I'm increasingly demotivated to use Live.

Has this problem been solved in 8.1.4?

Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:15 pm
by 3phase
Jorge3 wrote:I've been extremely troubled by crackles between some clips in the Arrangement view in almost every my project since 8.0. There's a thread on this problem:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112868

It has nothing to do with CPU usage or warp modes or warp markers. Fading off a large portion of the clips' ends sometimes muffles out the crackles, but sometimes doesn't (and when it does, it silences so much of the clips that the solution isn't practical). Consolidating or exporting the clips do nothing either. I'm stuck because of this, and I'm increasingly demotivated to use Live.

Has this problem been solved in 8.1.4?
crackles less with my setup.. why you dont give it a shot? dont costs anything