8.1.4 - king of stability?

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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by Dennis DeSantis » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:19 pm

Jorge3 wrote:I've been extremely troubled by crackles between some clips in the Arrangement view in almost every my project since 8.0. There's a thread on this problem:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112868

It has nothing to do with CPU usage or warp modes or warp markers. Fading off a large portion of the clips' ends sometimes muffles out the crackles, but sometimes doesn't (and when it does, it silences so much of the clips that the solution isn't practical). Consolidating or exporting the clips do nothing either. I'm stuck because of this, and I'm increasingly demotivated to use Live.

Has this problem been solved in 8.1.4?
This should be fixed in this update: "- Occasionally, loud clicks could occur when using crossfades in the Arrangement."

A complete changelog is in this thread: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=141021

Please let us know if you still experience these crackles, however.

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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by 3phase » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:23 pm

"- In very rare cases, Live would crash when running extremely loud signals through Overdrive."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

now that i call a brickwall limiter
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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by 3phase » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:19 pm

oh shit.. now b2 is crashing on launch when 8.14 is open...

:-(

no. its crashing all the time now...


what is going on here? first b3 decided to crash on launch form one day to the other... now its b2...

can this happen with the official versions aswell? what can cause such a behavior when you dont do any new installs?
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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by Dennis DeSantis » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:20 pm

3phase wrote:oh shit.. now b2 is crashing on launch when 8.14 is open...
Are you trying to run two versions at the same time? This has strange consequences, and isn't really recommended to check stability.

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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by 3phase » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:31 pm

no.. its crashing on its own now.. a

And you really need to run 2 versions of live simultaniously..otherwise i dont see a way to work..

You still dont have the option to run 2 sets on one instance... also age old wish for live and pretty essential..

L8 makes much more trouble in this regard..with L7 you was able to drag clips from one instance to the other... now you eed to use the browser :-(

are there any tricks to run 2 instances of the same version?

sofar i allways made use of running an older L8 with a newer one..
but this cant be done anymore without corupting the installation itself?
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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by Poster » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:42 pm

3phase wrote:are there any tricks to run 2 instances of the same version?
why would you want to run 2 instances if you cannot drag from one to another?

the 'trick' is to just duplicate the Live app..

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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by epiphanius » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:49 pm

I had almost no problems with any version of 8 - until 8.13. Now it won't open at all on Windows, and crashes with some frequency on my Mac.

I hope you're right about 8.14 - but that's what I had heard about 8.13.

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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by smaucher » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:52 pm

3phase wrote:"- In very rare cases, Live would crash when running extremely loud signals through Overdrive."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

now that i call a brickwall limiter
i don't crash when our guitarist turns his stack to 11 :D :D :D :D :D

by the way. 8.1.4 running extremely smooth here...
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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by Dexes » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:48 pm

3phase wrote:are there any tricks to run 2 instances of the same version?
Get a PC and then select "Allow Multiple Instances" in the preferences.

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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by KrisM » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:47 pm

Great job on the Live-only download :) Redoing my library and uninstalling all the Live Packs for things I don't have was the worst part of upgrading.
Dexes wrote:
3phase wrote:are there any tricks to run 2 instances of the same version?
Get a PC and then select "Allow Multiple Instances" in the preferences.
Yes, tell him to buy a completely new computer and OS when all he has to do is duplicate the Live.app - Wow. If it was to that point he could just use BootCamp anyway ;)
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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by 3phase » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:52 pm

but isnt the dupülicated app using the same prefferences and othr support files and is that not asking for trouble?

are there any ableton rectified setups here?

and.. why has b2 now decided to crash on launch like the b3 did last week? that is an really interstig new behaviour..
sofar such thing swas allways related to plug in installations.. but ther are none..so what is going on?
and is the offical 8.14 the next on that suddenly will decide t crash on launch?
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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by Poster » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:20 pm

3phase wrote:but isnt the dupülicated app using the same prefferences and othr support files and is that not asking for trouble?
yes.. but apparently you've been doing that since using 2 different versions is the same..

and.. why has b2 now decided to crash on launch like the b3 did last week? that is an really interstig new behaviour..
sofar such thing swas allways related to plug in installations.. but ther are none..so what is going on?
obsolete discussion since 8.1.4 is now the latest version..
and is the offical 8.14 the next on that suddenly will decide t crash on launch?
just speculation..

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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by 3phase » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:29 pm

Poster wrote: yes.. but apparently you've been doing that since using 2 different versions is the same..
there are independent folders for each version in the preffs and applikation support

just speculation..
really? after that what we went thru and after the phenomen having appeard 2 times in one week on different versions of L8?

isnt it rather an educated guess?
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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by mr.adl » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:32 pm

Dennis DeSantis wrote:Hi folks,- Some users mentioned crashes with 8.1.4. Can you provide more info?

Thanks,

I wrote a mail including 4 Bugreports to bugs AT ableton.com
I also included a list with all Plugin i used in that session and my PC specs.

Seems it happens especially with this one Set in particular, cause when i play other sets Live seems to run stable (no crashes with other sets so far).

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Re: 8.1.4 - king of stability?

Post by Piplodocus » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:46 pm

8.1.3 and 8.1.4 are both stable on my system. Used to have lots of random crashes for no apparent reason on one version, but I don't know which, and they all disappeared with the last few I installed.
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