Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

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Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by flowdesigner » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:11 pm

I read on the RME homepage that OS X is a faster OS than Windows 7, so I wonder why Live should perform better on Windows.

Robert Henke use OS X, right?

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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by 4.33 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:21 pm

it sounds better on Windows too. dont buy into all this corporate marketing apple bullshit :wink:

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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by flowdesigner » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:17 pm

4.33 wrote:it sounds better on Windows too. dont buy into all this corporate marketing apple bullshit :wink:

from the Ableton Live forum Benchmark thread this is what got me thinking:

1. Ableton Live CPU Meter: 8% with Windows 7 (same 1 computer)
1. Ableton Live CPU Meter: 17% with OSX 10.6 (same 1 computer)
1. Ableton Live CPU Meter: 23% with OSX 10.6.3 (same 1 computer)
2. Desktop: Custom HackMac
3. OS: I settled on OSX 10.6, as I'm a Mac guy
4. Ableton Live version: 8.1.3
5. CPU Make, model and speed: i7 920 @3.32GHz
6. Amount of RAM: 6GB
7. Soundcard : onboard
8. Hard disk drive speed: 7200RPM
9. Number of playback tracks: 8

Double the Performance on Windows 7....

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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by H20nly » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:21 pm

I read that red roses grow faster than white ones.

I also read that computers that aren't identical are made with different parts and specs.

If one of those statements is wrong, which one is correct?
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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by jimyson » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:20 pm

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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by 4.33 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:48 am

dude! 8O
flowdesigner wrote: 2. Desktop: Custom HackMac
doesnt that ring a bell?

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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by arctic ranger » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:29 am

who the fuck really cares???
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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by UnCL0NED » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:38 am

:lol:

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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by Piplodocus » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:26 pm

4.33 wrote:dude! 8O
flowdesigner wrote: 2. Desktop: Custom HackMac
doesnt that ring a bell?
+1

Hackintoshes don't count. My wife's "slower" macbook is faster and snappier than my "faster" hackintosh.

Maybe a bit more even to use a real mac, and compare it to win7 with bootcamp as mac laptops are known to be good windows laptops, whereas hackintoshes can have all sorts of funny latencies, especially since the os has to interface via EFI emulation.
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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by H20nly » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:41 pm

Piplodocus wrote:Maybe a bit more even to use a real mac, and compare it to win7 with bootcamp
yeah, it would probably be more even to run both Operating Systems on Apple's hardware and see which is faster.

and a blind taste test is easier if you keep one eye open.
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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by v0ins315 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:58 pm

I'm switching to PC now.
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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by Isturite- » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:13 pm

I use Live on windows vista and OSX 10.6 i think it is... ill check on that and repost when i get home

anyway... i use windows vista on bootcamp and it runs much slower on windows, i also get sound issues (that's from bootcamp though, not windows itself)... When I run it in OSX it's a little more stable (less error messages), but yet seems to crash more often... I think running OSX on a custom desktop will cause issues... so comparing the two will never be a legit comparison- this is because OSX is built with the hardware that is literally welded into apple computers... i notice that this keeps OSX as a much more solid and stable operating system, and the separation from the operating system to hardware in pc can cause a lot more problems... most of the time with mac there is one driver for all macs... for pc, you gotta get all types of different drivers that work for your particular situation... I dont have any solid proof that live runs better on mac, but just does for me.
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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by d-track » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:04 pm

i dual boot on the same hw without efi: osx 10.6.4 (hackmac) and xp sp3.
live sets are almost identical on 8.1.4

nothing to talk about here anymore really
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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by Machinesworking » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:17 pm

flowdesigner wrote:I read on the RME homepage that OS X is a faster OS than Windows 7, so I wonder why Live should perform better on Windows.

Robert Henke use OS X, right?
RME state that OSX Leopard and above has better USB support than XP/Vista, dunno if they have the tests for Win7?
It's splitting hairs to a degree though. If there is any advantage OSX has over Windows as of now that will probably diminish when USB3 hits.

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Re: Is it proved that Live runs faster on Windows 7 than OS X

Post by Cryptic UK » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:33 am

I think its been proved that people are morons
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