bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by macmurphy » Fri May 13, 2011 3:39 pm

well obviously it's my perception.

but really, how can anyone deny that this -
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- is meaningless noise? in fact it's offensive meaningless noise.

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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by 3phase » Fri May 13, 2011 5:36 pm

macmurphy wrote:well obviously it's my perception.

but really, how can anyone deny that this -
3phase wrote:theese days really any retard is an audio engineer/producer... it is really magix
- is meaningless noise? in fact it's offensive meaningless noise.

just the truth .. live dont sounds as good as other daws ..

and you guys here are so much not aware of that, that one only can draw one conclusion...

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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by mr.ergonomics » Fri May 13, 2011 5:48 pm

other question can you name a track with a sound quality you like in particular? would be best if you could buy it as wav.

also a "brown dither" track would be interesting...

really no trick question here.

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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by 3phase » Fri May 13, 2011 6:08 pm

mr.ergonomics wrote:other question can you name a track with a sound quality you like in particular? would be best if you could buy it as wav.

also a "brown dither" track would be interesting...

really no trick question here.

when you dont know the original tracks you cant tell wether the output is degenerated.. but when i play the source files of this track that is recorded in logic, in live its just a different thing.. sounds even worse mixed in live than the youtube version of the release..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUozXWPs ... dded#at=93
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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by macmurphy » Fri May 13, 2011 6:47 pm

3phase wrote:
macmurphy wrote:well obviously it's my perception.

but really, how can anyone deny that this -
3phase wrote:theese days really any retard is an audio engineer/producer... it is really magix
- is meaningless noise? in fact it's offensive meaningless noise.

just the truth .. live dont sounds as good as other daws ..

and you guys here are so much not aware of that, that one only can draw one conclusion...

audio tomatos
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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by H20nly » Fri May 13, 2011 6:56 pm

mr.ergonomics wrote:can you name a track with a sound quality you like in particular? ...

also a "brown dither" track would be interesting...
yes 3Phase, please consider this request again.

i would also like to know/hear the sound quality you're after.

and i also would like to know what in God's green earth brown hinke dither sounds like.

thanks.

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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by 3phase » Fri May 13, 2011 7:04 pm

H20nly wrote:
mr.ergonomics wrote:can you name a track with a sound quality you like in particular? ...

also a "brown dither" track would be interesting...
yes 3Phase, please consider this request again.

i would also like to know/hear the sound quality you're after.

and i also would like to know what in God's green earth brown hinke dither sounds like.

thanks.

~ H20
just listen to an propper mixed audiotrack from within ableton live with warping on.. thats the brown henke dither...

opposite to what ableton states the samplerate conversion is not allways off when you set the clip speed to song speed...

than you compare with the audio file played thru the quicktime player.. enjoy the transparent soundquality

now take a well recorded drum stem..and a low level string sound.. mix them on zero db level in live.. now do the same with another daw or use 2 instances of the apple quicktime player... as finer the source recordings are as more obvios the degeneration thru the mix from within live is...

and the new test..the external fx plug. check this and compare what the similar plug does in logic...

do this 3 tests and tell me wether you still belive that live sounds as good as it should or not
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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by H20nly » Fri May 13, 2011 7:35 pm

^
ok. so i; "take a well recorded drum stem..and a low level string sound.. mix them on zero db level in live.."

then i play them at the same time with the volume turned up to 0dB and then i play them by using two instances of Quicktime at the same time. ok. getting right on that.

in the meantime;

i was wondering if you could name a track with sound quality you actually like.

and i was wondering if you could name a track or have a link to an example of brown henke dither.
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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by 3phase » Fri May 13, 2011 7:41 pm

H20nly wrote:^
ok. so i; "take a well recorded drum stem..and a low level string sound.. mix them on zero db level in live.."

then i play them at the same time with the volume turned up to 0dB and then i play them by using two instances of Quicktime at the same time. ok. getting right on that.

in the meantime;

i was wondering if you could name a track with sound quality you actually like.

and i was wondering if you could name a track or have a link to an example of brown henke dither.
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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by H20nly » Fri May 13, 2011 7:45 pm

does that mean you cannot name a track that is recorded the way you like it?

does it mean that there are no commercial versions of henke dither?

lastly, i just feel the need to say that i don't have Logic, Quick Time, or any big cone shaped purple external fx like you do. does this mean i cannot make music the way you like it and without henke dither?
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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by 3phase » Fri May 13, 2011 8:05 pm

H20nly wrote:does that mean you cannot name a track that is recorded the way you like it?

does it mean that there are no commercial versions of henke dither?

lastly, i just feel the need to say that i don't have Logic, Quick Time, or any big cone shaped purple external fx like you do. does this mean i cannot make music the way you like it and without henke dither?
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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

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Post by Tone Deft » Fri May 13, 2011 8:18 pm

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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by Poster » Fri May 13, 2011 8:30 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
Poster wrote:nvrmnd
Joshua: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
true..

was going to respond to 3phoo's villabobo youtube link;
why am I not surprised he visits the same church.. http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=127690

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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)

Post by 3phase » Fri May 13, 2011 8:42 pm

church? not this one...

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