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[LeifonMars]

You want to invest your money wisely and out of all the billions of tutorials and introductions there are, you end up with that?

Now go get the demo of Live and do the tutorials and read the manual and find out yourself.

[littlepig]

Who is she? looks like a bit of a nutter to me.

Anyway LeifonMars gives sound advice, just try the demo

[crofter]

Well she is a girl, nuff said,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLgzxk7R ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39qdhbkT ... re=related

[razorblade]

You realize the software does not include the hot chick, right?

[outershpongolia]

"this is my audio box, which is my.. thing that everything goes into"

[crofter]

My question was is she saying is fact,not, how I spend my money dumbass.

She's talking bollocks mate.

[LeifonMars]

My question was is she saying is fact,not, how I spend my money dumbass.

Which part? She's saying a lot of things and most of them she doesn't care to elaborate at all. It's her user experience she's talking about.

[glenn303]

"this is my audio box, which is my.. thing that everything goes into"

I thought it was called a fuzzbox?

[littlepig]

Actually people were being nice to you before you started calling them names. They gave you some good advice, try the demo then you can see if it is worth spending your money. Or is that too difficult for you?

[SubFunk]

it's all crap, get tetris, that's where the fun is.

[3dot...]

[glenn303]

I run Live 8 on a 6yr old PC and it runs fine.
Try the demo.

[dum]

The girl is 'right' ...in as much as she offered her opinion when asked for it by her fans, and made it very clear using words & sentences that she just has a preference for FL. Based on real experiences, not through consolidating the endless opinions of others online. Nothing more nothing less - unless I'm not reading between the lines enough ?

The only thing she offered as fact which isn't as black & white as she made it out to be was when she said Ableton performs better on a mac/osx.

This is pretty easy to verify/research as there's a lot of documented performance tests done across loads of different systems & setups on the forum here. Just use the forum search function for 'performance test' or something like that. I believe there's one thread for each version of live...from live5 to live8 I think.


as for demos, well... newbies to producing have little-to-no frame of reference, so even trying the demos they may not spot workflow shortcomings no matter how egregious. And even well seasoned electronic musicians who know exactly what they want from a DAW might not spot bugs/crashes in a demo until it's too late...that is to say - until they've paid for it.
So... there's no harm in asking for peoples OPINIONS, PREFERENCES or EXPERIENCES ... so long as people are very clear about which is which - it's hard to go wrong. Unfortunately, in practise, there's always a couple of outspoken douchebags on forums who are often just regurgitating shit they picked up elsewhere and mis-represent that as 'fact' or an opinion based on experience. I'd happily listen to a novice tell me about his real experiences and opinions based on those experiences as opposed to some self-proclaimed pro with a 'sound on sound' e-subscription and a few thousand posts on gearslutz.

So beware!

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I started off on fruityloops, but ditched it for Ableton.

[crofter]

"Try the demo".
Please...If the demo was the all out answer for a product, then why is this forum filled with users having problems?

What I do know that works is users that have many hours invested in this software...that's why I am asking is what the girl is saying fact?

You can't defend your software? You can't say "she's wrong,it runs good on a PC".

C'mon, alot of users here have made dozens of songs in Live 8, tell me this product is awesome. Tell me the girl is wrong.

I'd rather listen to users than read a long manual.

Don't believe all you hear or all you read, try the demo and make your own mind up or live in ignorance all your life.

[Cool Character]

as for demos, well... newbies to producing have little-to-no frame of reference, so even trying the demos they may not spot workflow shortcomings no matter how egregious. And even well seasoned electronic musicians who know exactly what they want from a DAW might not spot bugs/crashes in a demo until it's too late...that is to say - until they've paid for it.
So... there's no harm in asking for peoples OPINIONS, PREFERENCES or EXPERIENCES ... so long as people are very clear about which is which - it's hard to go wrong. Unfortunately, in practise, there's always a couple of outspoken douchebags on forums who are often just regurgitating shit they picked up elsewhere and mis-represent that as 'fact' or an opinion based on experience. I'd happily listen to a novice tell me about his real experiences and opinions based on those experiences as opposed to some self-proclaimed pro with a 'sound on sound' e-subscription and a few thousand posts on gearslutz.

So beware!

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Don't believe all you hear or all you read, try the demo and make your own mind up or live in ignorance all your life.

Hahahaha.
Never change, Ableton forum.