Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

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Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by abletony84 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:02 am

Hello!

I have so much love for my livesets / racks that it's important I keep them as nice and clean as possible. Like, if I notice my Compressor threshold is set to -21.7 dB I'll immediately correct it to -22 dB.

But there is one case here where I have three Compressor thresholds mapped to a single knob. If I adjust the knob to say -22 dB on the first compressor, it will say -18.8 dB on the second one, and -15.2 dB on the third one. Attempting to set the second one to -19 dB will change the first one to -22.2 dB and the third one to -15.4 dB, and so forth. This despite also having set the Min and Max values in the Macro Mappings of the three Compressors to whole numbers.

Is there a way to fix this? (i.e. setting the first Compressor threshold to -22 dB, second to -19 dB and third to -15 dB)

(meanwhile I've requested a Snap to nearest whole number feature in the wishlist)

Many thanks!

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by Winterpark » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:09 am

isn't that a little OCD?
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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by catalyst » Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:26 am

Huh? That's crazy talk - seriously, why would you want to go and round up/down all your thresholds etc? 8O

If you dragged the sliders, pots and such blindly til they sounded good chances are they wouldn't end up integers. If anything there should be a feature to HIDE the values so you listen rather than use your eyes, it is sound after all :P

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by abletony84 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:05 pm

I hear what y'all are saying. I guess there's a thin line between being mentally retarded and a musical genius - or like in my case - hopelessly in love.

Speaking for myself, I've found that a meticulous attention to detail (and a burning desire for soulful things) has helped me slay a lot of competitors.

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by anybody human » Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:48 pm

Do whatever works for you but a long time ago a really smart guy told me not to pay attention to numbers. I said, "it sounds really good set at 64.3 or whatever" and he about had a conniption. Use your ears not your eyes I guess, the numbers are just there for reference. You can hold down the command key for finer adjustment, with some plugins it might be shift instead. If I'm having trouble I'll just do this without looking for a slower throw and call it good.

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by White_Rabbit » Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:29 pm

I agree use your ears rather than your eyes but sometimes I'll do this with the tempo in order to sync with others. The trick is to make the difference between min and max values evenly divisible by 128 eg 0 to 64, 42, or 21 etc (or was it 127??)

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by Piplodocus » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:00 am

Or most things you click on you can then type the number. Depends what it is though.
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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by dum » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:46 am

This thread has to be a joke.
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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by outershpongolia » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:53 pm

dum wrote:This thread has to be a joke.
Yup, just a big practical joke played on dum.

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by auto-lock » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:12 pm

i think in this case you are giving priority to visuals over sound, non he less its a free world.

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by steko » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:16 pm

The map is not the territory...
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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by v0ins315 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:32 pm

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by steko » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:34 pm

Yep, but most of 'em use Cubase.
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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by abletony84 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:48 pm

White_Rabbit wrote:I agree use your ears rather than your eyes but sometimes I'll do this with the tempo in order to sync with others. The trick is to make the difference between min and max values evenly divisible by 128 eg 0 to 64, 42, or 21 etc (or was it 127??)
Thats it man thanks a lot..

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Re: Problems using whole numbers (i.e. -22 dB and not -21.7 dB)

Post by djsynchro » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:54 pm

Next time you have a silly question can you please post it in the lounge? I'm never in this forum anymore. :D :D
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