VST(I) only host

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Thu Oct 10, 2002 1:03 pm

To silence maybe a little the cry for VST(I) support in Live - please have a look at this : Chainer by Xlutop, a standalone VST(I) host ;
Not Rewire enabled (yet - have sent a mail to the developers in order to ask if it was in the pipeline)

http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html

Chainer is a multi-effect and multi-instrument rack for musicians and sound designers. It's a VST host that runs as a standalone application, VST effect and VST instrument.

Chainer allows you to stream the ASIO or VST input signal through up to 10 chains of VST effects so you can use your PC as a realtime multi-effect processor.

In addition Chainer enables you to play several VST instruments at the same time. You can layer several instruments to create complex sounds or you may play instruments on different MIDI channels: Chainer turns your PC into a multi-timbral sound generator.

To achieve very low latencies, the standalone version supports ASIO 2.0 compatible soundcards. A fast PC, a good ASIO driver and Chainer enable you to use your VST effects and instruments almost like real hardware devices.

It is possible to load up to 100 VST plugins per instance of Chainer, but since you can load Chainer in itself there is no actual limit.

The parameters of Chainer and also parameters of the loaded VST plugins can be controlled through MIDI control change messages or VST automation.

A bonus feature of Chainer is the ability to create multi-samples from your VST instruments in WAV and SF2 format for instant use in samplers.

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:33 pm

This was the reply I got from the Chainer-people regarding ReWire support :

I don't think that Chainer will have rewire support in the near future. To
support this technology I would need a license from the makers of rewire. I
didn't contact them but I heard that they only give rewire licenses to
"bigger" companies that already have a name in the industry. Perhaps this
are only rumors and they give a license to all who pay for it, I don't know.

At the moment there are some other things that I would like to implement
first. But since there are others who ask the same question I will put the
rewire support on a list with possible features.

Best regards,

Thomas Potulski

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Oct 10, 2002 8:16 pm

Hi Mbazzy!
You're right, this definitely seems to be a popular topic/request lately.

Check out my reply to the "Reaktor and Live..." thread from earlier today:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1431

The forthcoming new beta of Plogue Bidule will allow Bidule to be a Rewire master. So long as you don't mind controlling Live from within Bidule, this gives you all the VSTi support you need (and so much more!)

Cheers,
-K

Kerrydan · Post by **Kerrydan** » Thu Oct 10, 2002 8:18 pm

Ooops, forgot to log in. That last post should have come from this account.

-K

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:16 pm

The forthcoming new beta of Plogue Bidule will allow Bidule to be a Rewire master.

YES! SWEET!

when???

Bidule ROCKS!

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Fri Oct 11, 2002 10:41 am

After directing them to some ReWire info onthe Propellerheads site, received following mail from the Xlutop-Chainer people :

(BTW, Chainer looks/feels like quite a stable program untill now ---

vision! Ableton folks help out Xlutop people with Rewire implementation and bundle it with Live ...

)

Hi..

Thanks for the info on ReWire. Good to know it's free. That increases the
chance that it will be implemented into Chainer in the future.

Regards,

Thomas Potulski

VST(I) only host

VST(I) only host

Update

Chainer Update II (FWIW)