why is live unable to find its own audio files?

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why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by 3phase » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:15 pm

I constantly need to show the search engine the folder where the files are in eve when it sits next to the song file.. and .. than. it dont even finds the samples inside the folder..its acting like beeing totaly blind...

allways happens with older projekts.. so L4 or L5.. but cnstantly.. there is not a singel old set i can load just wright away even when all sampkes are there..

why is that? any tips to get rid of the bad behaviour..except searching all files by hand and safe again ...

thats what i am doing since hours...
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by beats me » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:29 pm

"collect all and save" ALWAYS.

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by tw1nstates » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:32 pm

It's got the worst search function of any program i have used!
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by 3phase » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:41 pm

i allways do collect and safe.. but.. semms that you are not allowd to change the lokation of that folders.. or newer versions of life are blind towards olders collect all ad safe products,..weard

and it just kills my day.. again ...
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by tw1nstates » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:06 pm

TBH having time machine and being a bit better organised with my audio files these days has rendered the search function almost redundant.

I did however have to find something today and noticed it was scanning my whole hard drive to find the file rather than the folder it would most likely be in!

Still, it's a minor gripe. I guess the fact that live is so good in some areas makes it frustrating that everything isn't like that :)
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by Bizon » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:11 pm

tw1nstates wrote:It's got the worst search function of any program i have used!

With the exception of the OSX search function.

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by steko » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:31 pm

Bizon wrote:With the exception of the OSX search function.
What's the problem?
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by Bizon » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:58 pm

steko wrote:
Bizon wrote:With the exception of the OSX search function.
What's the problem?
Have you ever tried looking for a specific file like a bank of presets for a particular VST or even a sample? The only things it can find are items you have downloaded or things on your desktop.

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by H20nly » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:02 pm

Bizon wrote:
tw1nstates wrote:It's got the worst search function of any program i have used!

With the exception of the OSX search function.
Microsoft's is pretty lame too.
The one in Outlook... :evil: takes days and spits candidates out in the most random order... one from 2007, one from yesterday, one from 2009, one from your mom, one from post master delivery failure notification... :? awful <barfing emoticon>
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by steko » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:05 pm

The only things it can find are items you have downloaded or things on your desktop.
Err no.

There are limitations. E.g. it doesen't find System stuff per default, but you can always do a custom search (systemfiles, invisible etc.) & even save that as an intelligent folder in your sidebar: http://www.apple.com/pro/tips/spotlightsaved.html

http://hints.macworld.com/dlfiles/spotlight_cmds.pdf

Alternatives: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/11076/easyfind - http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/30 ... d-any-file
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by rikhyray » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:08 pm

Bizon wrote:
tw1nstates wrote:It's got the worst search function of any program i have used!

With the exception of the OSX search function.
What about the Microsoft dog search? (the first Windows tweak anyone of sane mind and will to keep it sane must do- remove the dog).
I kept using ver.5 mainly because of the "innovative" search that came with ver.6 and despite of some saying it got better, it never did.
The only solution, take an evening, or whole day, go through all archives and organise them into projects etc, collect and save it all. Make some packs for safety too. I did it finally few weeks back and no headaches since then. Can move them mac<>pc, various drives, no issues any more, dont have to see them bloody strips moving and not finding.
I hope the man who invented that bloody system does not work@ Ableton anymore.
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by bagginz » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:38 am

Bizon wrote:
tw1nstates wrote:It's got the worst search function of any program i have used!

With the exception of the OSX search function.
I dunno, ever tried to search in XP? Drives me nuts...

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by Manestra » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:51 am

seems as we have the same problem: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=147471

But I have this problem just for the Sets I started before I replaced the original files.
But on these sets I have to show it again, and again, and again....each time.

But not for Sets I started after the replacing of the original files.

any ideas why it is so?

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by Piplodocus » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:03 pm

Live can never find my missing files either.

Yeah, you can customise the OSX one.

I liked the Dog on the XP search. It made it more endearing when it couldn't find F***-all ever! :-)
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by 3phase » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:16 pm

please no osx / windows shit here.. the live internal search is blind like a mule...


i use the osx search all the time to find the missing file inside the projekt folder !

ther must be a more technical reasn for the blindness.. ther some weardness that makes live blind for files that chnged theoer location at one point in hystory.. so its not looking after the name of the file otherwise it would see it..

live search is also ignorant regarding folders inside of folders.. but when the user points handselected to a folder the program maybe could be fortunate enough to look into all files inside that folder?

why cant live just acces the os search funktions like otehr softwares? do they have to pay licencing fees than?
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