How to hold a sound and repeat it rhythmically.
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This is a stutter effect.. Reaktor has many ensembles dedicated to this including sync stutter, livestutterer etc...
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i just did a live show a few days ago where we utilized Supatrigga in the same way the original poster described - triggering 4th/8th note repeats at any point in the song. the way i set it up was:
2 instances of supatrigga across the master buss, granularity set to 4 on the first, 8 on the second
on each instance of Supatrigga, repeat/reverse/etc probabilities were set to 0. instant repeat and instant reverse were mapped to MIDI keys, as were on/off for the plug in - the idea was to have predictable response when you fired the keys (i love the random nature of Supatrigga, but sometimes it's not all that practical to utilize live) whack them on for a 1/4-1/2-1 bar and then off again and be back into where the song should be. the 1/4 bar repeat/reverse works especially well if you're going for the "broken disco loop" feel.....
the whole thing worked really well, although there were some moments where the buffer was still stuck with audio chunks from a previous song but i think that was because i had kept the plug in off for a while instead of keying the repeat reverse off and leaving the plug in on.
the keys on the controller were marked with color coded stickers that you can get at office supply stores so i knew what key was doing what since i had so many assigned to trigger things and i didn't want to get confused.
looking back, i think that a better way to do it might have been to assign a knob as a switch on a UC-33 or something because you can get a visual on what state the plug in is in - that's not really possible with a key on/key off situation unless you are looking at the plug in and who wants to be doing that all the time?
one wierd thing with Supatrigga in OSX i've noticed - when i start up the session, the settings aren't remembered and i have to manually reset them each time..... anyone else have this problem? it's a real pain in the ass, maybe it's pilot error on my part but i dunno what i am doing wrong here...
2 instances of supatrigga across the master buss, granularity set to 4 on the first, 8 on the second
on each instance of Supatrigga, repeat/reverse/etc probabilities were set to 0. instant repeat and instant reverse were mapped to MIDI keys, as were on/off for the plug in - the idea was to have predictable response when you fired the keys (i love the random nature of Supatrigga, but sometimes it's not all that practical to utilize live) whack them on for a 1/4-1/2-1 bar and then off again and be back into where the song should be. the 1/4 bar repeat/reverse works especially well if you're going for the "broken disco loop" feel.....
the whole thing worked really well, although there were some moments where the buffer was still stuck with audio chunks from a previous song but i think that was because i had kept the plug in off for a while instead of keying the repeat reverse off and leaving the plug in on.
the keys on the controller were marked with color coded stickers that you can get at office supply stores so i knew what key was doing what since i had so many assigned to trigger things and i didn't want to get confused.
looking back, i think that a better way to do it might have been to assign a knob as a switch on a UC-33 or something because you can get a visual on what state the plug in is in - that's not really possible with a key on/key off situation unless you are looking at the plug in and who wants to be doing that all the time?
one wierd thing with Supatrigga in OSX i've noticed - when i start up the session, the settings aren't remembered and i have to manually reset them each time..... anyone else have this problem? it's a real pain in the ass, maybe it's pilot error on my part but i dunno what i am doing wrong here...
I think Machinate's right.....PhutboySlim is probably just the plugin you're looking for. Whatever audio is playing when you hit the button will repeat at the interval of your choice.... 1/1 all the way to 1/64. Also odd-numbered divisions are possible, but not triplets, or tuple-metered rhythms, if i remember.
Its super handy and, imo, more reliable than supatrigger.
Its super handy and, imo, more reliable than supatrigger.
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Try this. It can be applied to the whole mix, a single track or any combination of tracks and return channels.
In session view:
1. Create an extra audio track, arm it for recording and set it's monitor to auto.
2. Route the tracks that you want effected to the new track instead of the master output.
3. Set the quantise value to the required repeat length
4. When tou get to the section you want to repeat click to record a clip on the new track and then click again straight away to play the new clip.
5. Click the new track's clip stop button to go back to normal playback.
Each time you use the effect you create a new audio clip containing the loop, so once you've captured it you can trigger it again any time you like, drag it to another track and add effects or whatever you can think of.
Try it - it's easier to do than to describe.
In session view:
1. Create an extra audio track, arm it for recording and set it's monitor to auto.
2. Route the tracks that you want effected to the new track instead of the master output.
3. Set the quantise value to the required repeat length
4. When tou get to the section you want to repeat click to record a clip on the new track and then click again straight away to play the new clip.
5. Click the new track's clip stop button to go back to normal playback.
Each time you use the effect you create a new audio clip containing the loop, so once you've captured it you can trigger it again any time you like, drag it to another track and add effects or whatever you can think of.
Try it - it's easier to do than to describe.
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it really depends on what youre doing.ethios4 wrote:hmm...can't people just do things how they want to do them? In no way do i see how it would be easier to use follow actions and multiple clips rather than just use a simple stutter plugin, especially since the whole point is to stutter the final mix. Studio work is a different story of course...
and no i dont think using follow actions or multiple clips is difficult at all
different strokes for different folk
the question was how, not what way is best...
there are many ways
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blakbeltjonez wrote:
one wierd thing with Supatrigga in OSX i've noticed - when i start up the session, the settings aren't remembered and i have to manually reset them each time..... anyone else have this problem? it's a real pain in the ass, maybe it's pilot error on my part but i dunno what i am doing wrong here...
same thing here.
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