Abelton versus SP-555

[neyko]

Aside from the nifty little light beam - does the Roland-555 offer anything that Ableton does not provide?

Using Ableton and either the 404 or 555 together, has anyone found any interesting uses?

Thanks.

[BlissVox]

I think using a hardware sampler with live is a bit of a waste. Your better off using a midi controller.

[neyko]

That is what I was thinking but thought someone might have found some unique tricks.

There may be other benefit than just the little theromen light the Roland has going on, such as the sampler effects and Sound on sound (sampling voices on the spot) and being used as an effect box to put instruments through. I have a feeling, though, with some effort, Ableton could accommodate both.

One area where Ableton has a hardware piece like the 555 beat is being able to drag samples into a set on the spot - otherwise both require loading up the samples ahead of time.

How tough would it be to program a beat on the spot while samples are playing in Ableton as can be done in the 555?

And has this been covered? Hooking up a turntable to Ableton Live?
555
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U71STzTa ... re=related

and in Ableton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Xzlu81 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GfQ6Z05 ... re=related

[Mudo]

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All that you can made with sp555 is possible and better with Live.

Loop capture = looper.
Voice transform = pitch.
Realtime beat producing with audio and MIDI.

In addition:
you can use more than ONE looper.
you can take different loop lenghts.
you can make different loop phrases with playlist.
you can hook a Ms. Pinky maxforlive patch and scratch clip content.
you can hook a midi controller and mute, select, mashup everything.

Sp555 is portable, nothing more and not really useful for beat composition. Sampler edition is crap, loop by loop is limited and Dbeam is not enough for all the bugs that it has.

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[kristoffer1989]

I have been using my sp-404 for quite some time now. This is what i use it for:

Guitar efx. Last after my pedals into preamp into computer.
For drones and efx when i gig with my electronicaduo so i can have stuff going on the sampler while i change liveset.
As an last chain efxprosessor. Plug my soundcard into it. Then instead of having to drag in an effect, midimap it and then use it i can just use instantly.

[jonesonyou]

I will add since on one has yet, Having a piece of hardware is a great idea if only for the chance your laptop crashes? knock on wood god forbid, but if it does, and you have to reboot, you can play live for a minute or 2, and you are good to go.

[netwarrior]

hardware samplers with ableton is miracle and i dont think its useless of using them .
as 4 myself i use korg es-1 , very first model - and it rocks. i sample my korg kaossilator with es1 and make some phat patterns on it and sequencing them in ableton...
hardware sampler such as korg es1 in many terms sounding much phatter than software sampler.
i just love the warmth it gives

[starving student]

hardware samplers with ableton is miracle and i dont think its useless of using them .
as 4 myself i use korg es-1 , very first model - and it rocks. i sample my korg kaossilator with es1 and make some phat patterns on it and sequencing them in ableton...
hardware sampler such as korg es1 in many terms sounding much phatter than software sampler.
i just love the warmth it gives

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[Mudo]

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I will add since on one has yet, Having a piece of hardware is a great idea if only for the chance your laptop crashes? knock on wood god forbid, but if it does, and you have to reboot, you can play live for a minute or 2, and you are good to go.

Cheap mp3 makes the same 2 minutes long.

Use samplers as "sound generator" like es-1 or em-1 is okey but is not the same question as sp-555 vs Ableton.

Nowadays only the new elektron oktatrack and maybe attached to Mc-909 could be similar but not so powerfull (and a bit expensive).


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[neyko]

Great discussion - but this reply - thank you -

Did not even think of the looper.
I am deeper into Ableton than those I know around me who use it, yet I am still just scratching the surface.

As far as being portable - my macbook is - and if I don't want to take the Duet, I can use the built in mic or my Lexicon Alpha.

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All that you can made with sp555 is possible and better with Live.

Loop capture = looper.
Voice transform = pitch.
Realtime beat producing with audio and MIDI.

In addition:
you can use more than ONE looper.
you can take different loop lenghts.
you can make different loop phrases with playlist.
you can hook a Ms. Pinky maxforlive patch and scratch clip content.
you can hook a midi controller and mute, select, mashup everything.

Sp555 is portable, nothing more and not really useful for beat composition. Sampler edition is crap, loop by loop is limited and Dbeam is not enough for all the bugs that it has.

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[Thatboysubz]

Well here's what my ass did,I hooked my NI core's Jack to RCA sockets into the SP 555 input rca input,controll my Laptop and Ableton Push output on the SP 555,then hooked up his Korg synth into my NI Kore inputs straight into Ableton Live,best of both worlds,I can fuck with the Korg Synth via audio channels inside Ableton then everthing is fed into he SP and I could fuck with the SP-555 effects,built in synth and tons of other shit on the SP and I can host DJ sets n live button bashing on both,I can DJ n do live beats on both while I'm Djin as well,all depends on how you route you connections n how creative your ass is,otherwise my Push 1 and Ableton alone are all I'm satisfied with for now,would never say no to that damn SP though...
HP G62 laptop,i3 Quadcore Cpu,4 gigs of ram,Ableton Push 1,NI KORE 1 that I use as my soundcard,Ableton live 9.7 n that's pretty much it!

[102455]

You've dug up a seven year old thread to post that?

[facepalm]

[neyko]

You've dug up a seven year old thread to post that?

[facepalm]

Aw, come on. It is appreciated. I am on to contemplating Push 2 now. See you all in 2024.

[102455]

Don't contemplate. Just get one. You'll love it!

[neyko]

Don't contemplate. Just get one. You'll love it!

$$$$Theyre so expensive.