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Post by crumhorn » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:36 pm

^^^^^
It is rumoured by Malcolm himself that TONTO contains a very large amount of spare wire from an Apollo space shuttle.
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Post by friend_kami » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:14 pm

epiphanius wrote:I bought my first mac a year and a half ago, mostly to use with Live. I have to say - I'm not favourably impressed. On the OS side - the innumerable file and library locations, the inability to search the Live manual, the broken 'finder' which hides useful results all add frustrations I did not have in Windows (and I was looking for improvement, not more problems). On the hardware side - a broken pixel that Apple refused to repair, and now the dvd rom drive is broken due to a poorly designed case. I know one pixel is not a big deal, but I have several LCDs and only one broken pixel, which is on the Mac.

Overpriced indeed - I would now think twice about buying one even at a similar price to Windows. The chorus of "Mac Love" has not made these problems easier to take either.

I know this is a contentious thing to post. But the immense frustration I've experienced with my Mac deserves a little venting (there are some nice things about them as well).

wtf is wrong with you.
use spotlight.

oh, and hit cmd+f to search the manual.

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Post by 3dot... » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:56 pm

bah... you can use ctrl-f... for 1/3 of the price..

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Post by friend_kami » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:16 pm

3dot... wrote:bah... you can use ctrl-f... for 1/3 of the price..

:P
really?
im running a hackintosh.
it was given to me free too.
i can use spotlight all i want, for free. :p

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Post by friend_kami » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:18 pm

but yes, apple computers are expensive. i once saw a pretty detailed article explaining that apple computers uses a cisc chip while the pc computers were using a risc chip and the performance difference was pretty significant, but since they are now running intl architecture im not sure its still true. so, i hackintosh and get both instead. wahu.

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Re: public message - MACS are too expensive ...

Post by leedsquietman » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:24 pm

Information only -

Our school board which uses thousands of macs (all elementary schools and adult education) amounting to about 58% of the network, as opposed to PC (secondary schools, IT department) amounting to about 42% of the network.

Apple gives us (teachers, faculty, staff) a 9% discount. They raised this from 6% 3 yrs ago to keep their elementary contract. Lenovo and HP give us a 40% discount.
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Re: public message - MACS are too expensive ...

Post by 3dot... » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:34 pm

friend_kami wrote:
3dot... wrote:bah... you can use ctrl-f... for 1/3 of the price..

:P
really?
im running a hackintosh.
it was given to me free too.
i can use spotlight all i want, for free. :p
:lol:
no shit... for free ?!
DAMMIT THAT'S WHAT I WANT !
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Re: public message - MACS are too expensive ...

Post by 3dot... » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:38 pm

leedsquietman wrote:Information only -

Our school board which uses thousands of macs (all elementary schools and adult education) amounting to about 58% of the network, as opposed to PC (secondary schools, IT department) amounting to about 42% of the network.

Apple gives us (teachers, faculty, staff) a 9% discount. They raised this from 6% 3 yrs ago to keep their elementary contract. Lenovo and HP give us a 40% discount.
Apple have to maintain a "prestige"... :lol:
Moog as well...

they won't sell themselves short...
quality over quantity fellas...

however... the world is being overpopulated...
pretty soon only a selected few will have macs and moogs (edit:and monome256s..) :wink: and you'll be working for them..
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Post by 3dot... » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:40 pm

what about Ferraris.... and jets...?
EXPENSIVE THATS WHAT !
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Re: public message - MACS are too expensive ...

Post by epiphanius » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:52 pm

wtf is wrong with you.
use spotlight.
WTF do you think I am using? Or trying to use, since it doesn't actually work. I have tons .ksd files, for example. If I search for *.ksd in spotlight - I get no hits, because Spotlight only indexes some directories, not all.
oh, and hit cmd+f to search the manual.
Yeah, I'm familiar with how it should work. It. Fucking. Doesn't.

Whatever I search for (e.g. "oscillator") I get 'no hits',
Others have had this problem with the Live manual, still others with other .pdfs. It is a Mac issue with large .pdfs (or something), that affects some users.

I only listed a couple of the frustrations I've had with the Mac, those that were at the top of my head. I am not willing to write the hundred or so pages describing them all in detail.

e.

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Post by ChiDJ » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:33 pm

Some prefer the clunk, other's dig the funk. 8)
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Post by Pitch Black » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:12 pm

^^more arcane sex-code from the master

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Re: public message - MACS are too expensive ...

Post by beats me » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:00 pm

Sales tax in CA is 9.75% so if you qualify for a 9-10% Apple discount all you're really doing is not paying tax. Whoopee boo. For whatever reason Amazon is able to sell Apple products for like $30 - $40 cheaper and for me that also means no tax and free shipping.

Just putting that out there if anybody is looking to save a little $$ and lives in a state where Amazon doesn't charge tax.

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Re: public message - MACS are too expensive ...

Post by friend_kami » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:34 pm

epiphanius wrote:
wtf is wrong with you.
use spotlight.
WTF do you think I am using? Or trying to use, since it doesn't actually work. I have tons .ksd files, for example. If I search for *.ksd in spotlight - I get no hits, because Spotlight only indexes some directories, not all.
oh, and hit cmd+f to search the manual.
Yeah, I'm familiar with how it should work. It. Fucking. Doesn't.

Whatever I search for (e.g. "oscillator") I get 'no hits',
Others have had this problem with the Live manual, still others with other .pdfs. It is a Mac issue with large .pdfs (or something), that affects some users.

I only listed a couple of the frustrations I've had with the Mac, those that were at the top of my head. I am not willing to write the hundred or so pages describing them all in detail.

e.
my spotlight indexes just fine O.o
also, try typing ".ksd" as it will search for files ending with .ksd then (or rather, anything with .ksd in the name).

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