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Is the universe music?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:00 am
by Moody
Post your thoughts..... according to the latest M theory we are just vibrating strings in a multi-dimensional universe.

Re: Is the universe music?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:02 am
by ethios4
Moody wrote: we are just vibrating strings in a multi-dimensional universe.
Are you trying to find meaning through a theory of meaninglessness?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:09 am
by Amberience
Desire In Violent Overture

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:35 am
by mcconaghy
"Music is the best" - Frank Zappa.

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:41 am
by kobal
my theory on music....


if you're going to make music, then make it.


time is running...

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:44 am
by Amberience
I love Japan.

Re: Is the universe music?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:20 am
by humeka
Moody wrote:we are just vibrating strings in a multi-dimensional universe.
giving a physical sense to what we believe being purely emotional...

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:03 am
by Spacerboy
Schauberger:

1/n = 1

the whole thing is kind of music. even here on our planet its a bit disharmonic, i think the rest is pretty harmonic.

just look at the parallels between physics in science (biology, technique,...) and music theory...
or check out the "dark side of the cell" project.

cheers, spacy

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:26 am
by nolus
<Phillosophy mode on>

Are bit patterns in a computer memory music?
Is musical notation music?
Or vibrations in the air?
For me music only exists when these things are percieved as music by a human mind.
We can inrerpret just about anything in a musical way; does that say more about the universe, or about us?
The relationship between symbols, things and ideas is fascinating and mysterious.

<Phillosophy mode off>

I'm off to the pub for a pint or three of real ale and some cool, boxing day lunchtime jazz - now that's what music is all about.

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:46 am
by Amberience
Knowledge has less to do with learning things, but more to do with how we interpret them. Anyone who realises this realises that most aspects of our world are subjective experiences.

Interpretations enemy is convention.

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:54 pm
by Moody
I find it fascinating that the love of my life that I am drawn to is not only personal but obviously cosmic. :D

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:22 am
by Architect
Imagination is better than knowledge, in music you convey that very imagination which is a great power! Music is NOT prejudice, you don't have to read theory to understand how to play based on how your soul speaks...

I believe as we gain a better understanding of how music works we get closer to learning how the human souls works. Without music I would be a damned soul. I'm glad my ancestors gave me this gift.

The universe is infinite and I believe music is, let's make it eternal.

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:34 am
by dpel
yeah, string theory.

i'm quite content in my 'brane.

like in psychoacoustics, when strings vibrate they create sympathetic
harmonics that create sympathetic harmonics that create sympathetic
harmonics that create sympathetic harmonics... and so on and so on...
musicians create music that sympathetically inspire other musicians/composers... and so on and so on...

the universe is beyond imagination

:wink:

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:17 pm
by Moonburnt
dpel wrote:like in psychoacoustics, when strings vibrate they create sympathetic
harmonics that create sympathetic harmonics that create sympathetic
harmonics that create sympathetic harmonics... and so on and so on...
musicians create music that sympathetically inspire other musicians/composers... and so on and so on...
nice analogy. In fact philosophical conversations tend to go much the same way. So I'm not even gonna start otherwise before i know it i'll be harmonically resonating into some big feedback loop of tripper talk :)

Re: Is the universe music?

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:41 pm
by conny
Maybe
Moody wrote:we are just vibrating strings
but I dont like the reduction proposed in the question. The "just" makes it meaningless, because vibrating strings, to my knowledge, do not ask themselves that question.
We could be "just" dreams in the mind of a god or lunatic or "just" matter or "just" energy or gene machines.
The "just" is a melodramatic trap in the language, wanting to clean up the mess.
I think we are the mess, happily. Making music at times, listening to cells, imagining things in the darkness, exchanging illusions and knowledge.

// C