WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

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WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by MariLive » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:40 am

Hi everyone,

i wrote a little tutorial about how to synchronize two or more Macs via a Midi-Signal over WLAN-Network (without any Cable).
It's quite easy and it offers many new possibilities to expand your Live-Setup.
Everything was done without any additional Software.

The Tutorial is written in German. I hope you can understand it.
If some of you would like to have it in English I could translate it.

Here you'll find the Tutorial (it's part of my Blog).

Have fun and rock on!
:) Yours Marius

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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by 3phase » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:47 pm

MariLive wrote:Hi everyone,

i wrote a little tutorial about how to synchronize two or more Macs via a Midi-Signal over WLAN-Network (without any Cable).
It's quite easy and it offers many new possibilities to expand your Live-Setup.
Everything was done without any additional Software.

The Tutorial is written in German. I hope you can understand it.
If some of you would like to have it in English I could translate it.

Here you'll find the Tutorial (it's part of my Blog).

Have fun and rock on!
:) Yours Marius

interesting.. how much tempofluctuation do you have on the slaves ?
some people told me they have seen stable netwwork sync but the failed to demonstrate it and wasnt sure if the just havent realized the wobbeling at the event...

so when the master is for example 125..what do you read on the slave?
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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by luddy » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:23 pm

Very nice! The pictures tell the whole story!

-Luddy

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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by MariLive » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:36 am

3phase wrote:
MariLive wrote:Hi everyone,

i wrote a little tutorial about how to synchronize two or more Macs via a Midi-Signal over WLAN-Network (without any Cable).
It's quite easy and it offers many new possibilities to expand your Live-Setup.
Everything was done without any additional Software.

The Tutorial is written in German. I hope you can understand it.
If some of you would like to have it in English I could translate it.

Here you'll find the Tutorial (it's part of my Blog).

Have fun and rock on!
:) Yours Marius

interesting.. how much tempofluctuation do you have on the slaves ?
some people told me they have seen stable netwwork sync but the failed to demonstrate it and wasnt sure if the just havent realized the wobbeling at the event...

so when the master is for example 125..what do you read on the slave?
Hey 3phase,

that's pretty interessting.
The thing was, i was trying to sync two Live Projects. On both sides were Audio-Samples running.
We synced the two systems via a Midi-Cable an had lot of problems because both were running out of time.

So we were looking for another solution ...
We tried the WLAN-Network thing and it worked way better than via a Midi-Cable.
Some now and then at the beginning we had to wait for one or two bars for the systems to be in time but from then on we had no problems. So that's the way we are going to use it.

Our Master tempo was 130bpm. On the slave system it was between 129.5 ... 130.5.
So it wasn't exactly 130bmp but we couldn't hear the bass and beats run out of time – even after more than an hour!

So I hope you'll have fun with it.
Mari

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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by 3phase » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:14 am

running out of time? thats probably related to your midi interfaces i would guess..
on my midi syncing the fluctuation is between +/- 0.8 bpm to +/- 1.5 bpm in bad cases...
but no drift.. the units run in sync along the timeline..just the slaves tempo is fluctuating.

but +/-0.5 bpm is much better than what i got sofar.. might investigate more in the network syncing...

question..do we get this running on pc aswell? i would need a mac>pc option aswell.. not all the guys i work with are on apple...

Are there network midi options or tools for windows pc around that would directly comunicate with an apple?

anybody any ideas?
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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by 3phase » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:52 am


wow..pricy stuff ..so one can see an apple allready 70-150 euro cheaper just for the midi lan option..


but thanx
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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by luddy » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:52 am

3phase wrote:running out of time? thats probably related to your midi interfaces i would guess..
I think he meant that he didn't have forever to goof around with the MIDI sync, he had other things to do (like, you know, actually play some music haha).

-Luddy

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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by davepermen » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:22 am

3phase wrote:

wow..pricy stuff ..so one can see an apple allready 70-150 euro cheaper just for the midi lan option..


but thanx
allready? still don't get a core i5 based system for around 500$, so even with that additional cost (i've seen cheaper ones btw, even free for personal use ones, so as long as you don't make money on a gig, you don't need to pay), the macs are far off at cost. but yeah, integrated midi sync is nice.
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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by davepermen » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:42 am

3phase wrote:

wow..pricy stuff ..so one can see an apple allready 70-150 euro cheaper just for the midi lan option..


but thanx
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/Software.html

donationware afai see.

now i need to find a mac to borrow to test :)
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Re: WLAN Midi-Sync Tutorial (German)

Post by tchan » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:54 pm

awesome tip! thanks for sharing :)

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