Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

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Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by STRATEGY_510 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:09 pm

Will this work? I'm on my new iMac and have Live 8 installed and I'm hating the warping. I bought 8 but never really used it on my old computer, now I'm trying to get used to 8 but it's not happening for the warpin'.

I can't access my "old" PC at the moment to grab some sets from 7 and open them in 8, can you guys answer some questions:

1) If I warp stuff in 7, will it open in 8 as previosly warped, or is that buggy? I thought I heard someone say that on here..

2) Where do I download Live 7 from? I believe I'm entitled to it since I upgraded from 6 during the "buy 7 now, get 8 later for free" period and I had both on my old computer.

I'm betting some folks will reccomend my learning how to warp in 8 and problem solved. Probably good advice, but right now I just want to get work done. fwiw, I spent an hour or two when 8 came out trying to get used to it and an hour yesterday. I DON'T LIKE IT.


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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by fisto » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:26 pm

He,

this works without problems. It's still correctly warped in Live 8. I do this too with tunes for MJ-ing.
Though I played yesterday and Live 8 gave me "Out of Memory" message at tha last tune :(. I will contact suppport because of this.

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PS: I play with an MBP, Launchpad, UC33e and I heard that Live gets confused when using them together so I now use an little midi-interface and plug the UC over midi to it....no strange behaviour since then.

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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by STRATEGY_510 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:39 am

fisto wrote:He,

this works without problems. It's still correctly warped in Live 8. I do this too with tunes for MJ-ing.
Thanks man, now I just have to figure out where to download Live 7 from, anyone? I'll check with support..

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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by contakt321 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:30 am

I know it's not the answer, but 8 takes a bit to get used to, but is WAY more intuitive once you get used to it. Watch a youtube vid and then warp a few songs, you will pick it up quick.

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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by T.I.M. » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:26 am

Your making harder for yourself. It would be easier to just learn the new way. It is actually better. Takes about 2 minutes to "get it". Besides I think all the new versions are going to be this way.

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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by siliconarc » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:51 am

went back to live7 for the first time in over a year the other day to test out something, and tried the old warp ways i was so used to for years. basically, it's crap. 8 is way, way better. just get used to it.

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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by gavgrant » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:07 pm

garyboozy wrote:went back to live7 for the first time in over a year the other day to test out something, and tried the old warp ways i was so used to for years. basically, it's crap. 8 is way, way better. just get used to it.
could not agree more. Version 8 is far superior. I play House tracks (115 - 125bpm) , and even find the autowarp works fine (re-pitch mode) and on the fly! - set first & end marker - job done!

works for me 95% of the time :-)
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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by STRATEGY_510 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:19 pm

T.I.M. wrote:Your making harder for yourself. It would be easier to just learn the new way. It is actually better. Takes about 2 minutes to "get it". Besides I think all the new versions are going to be this way.
Perhaps I'm retarded? I went at it on a couple of occasions for over an hour each and got nothing but frustration.

If someone wants to recommend the best tutorial they know of, I will give it another go (sigh).

I'd much prefer a "revert to Live 7 Warping Scheme" button though..

BY THE WAY, does anyone know where I can download Live 7?? I can't find it in my account and never had the 7 disc. I did the "buy 8, get 7 now, get 8 when it comes out" upgrade from Live 6.

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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by Commander Cody » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:35 pm

Had the same problem going from 7 to 8 but watched some tuts on Youtube and started to get the hang of it within minutes. One method that seems to help the transition from warping in 7 to 8 is to place warp marker on first beat then right click and select "set 1.1.1 here" then right click again and select "warp from here (straight)" IMO from there its a lot like warping in 7....
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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by T.I.M. » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:15 pm

STRATEGY_510 wrote:
T.I.M. wrote:Your making harder for yourself. It would be easier to just learn the new way. It is actually better. Takes about 2 minutes to "get it". Besides I think all the new versions are going to be this way.
Perhaps I'm retarded? I went at it on a couple of occasions for over an hour each and got nothing but frustration.

If someone wants to recommend the best tutorial they know of, I will give it another go (sigh).

I'd much prefer a "revert to Live 7 Warping Scheme" button though..

BY THE WAY, does anyone know where I can download Live 7?? I can't find it in my account and never had the 7 disc. I did the "buy 8, get 7 now, get 8 when it comes out" upgrade from Live 6.

Thanks,
STRATEGY

Try emailing Ableton for a serial of 7. We probably have different a workflow, I usually dont warp whole songs. I could give you my general strategy for warping though. I usually start at the beginning first than the last note. I than do the middle. I tend to work that way because all the other notes tend to land closer to the warp points. You have to look at 8 as moving the wav not the numbers. You have to get used to moving that yellow block to the correct point in time. I included a link to a youtube vid on warping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waLeq8-2 ... re=related

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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by kb420 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:13 pm

STRATEGY_510 wrote:I bought 8 but never really used it on my old computer, now I'm trying to get used to 8 but it's not happening for the warpin'.
You must learn the new warping features in 8. Failure is not an option.
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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by Donnie » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:15 pm

Lots of people had problems with the new warping at first. Once you get the hang of it though, you realize how much better it is. 8)

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Re: Warp It In 7, Play It In 8?

Post by sporkles » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:39 pm

STRATEGY_510 wrote: Perhaps I'm retarded?
You might want to consult professionals on that, but most likely, you're just impatient ;) You're seeing something that looks very familiar, but which still isn't doing exactly the things you expect. For me, the new method makes a lot more sense. Just make sure you've fully understood what's actually going on, and I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.

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