Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

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milfhuntr
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Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by milfhuntr » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:14 pm

How do I increase the volume of my master so when I render it has a good volume?

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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by Fantismo » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:35 pm

ive found this too if i keep my master green then i find my mixes are 7-10% quieter than other waveforms on soundcloud

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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by Tarekith » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:07 am

This might help:

http://tarekith.com/assets/mastering.html

A simpler answer is to just check the normalize box when you render, but that's still not going to get you as loud as most music out there these days (and that's not neccesarily a bad thing either!).
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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by MonsieurBon » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:56 am

Use a Maximizer. I use the W1 free VST Maximizer. It works wonderfully.

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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by DangerousDave » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:51 am

Dynamics ftmfw!!!!
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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by wehkah » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:18 am

W1 is not a maximizer, is a limiter like Wave L1. The best way is improve your mix and the sounding for each channel, remove unneeded frequencies to have a good balance. Never use a Limiter on the masterchannel at rendering!

I can recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.de/Mixing-Audio-Conce ... 920&sr=8-9

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its worth every money!

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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by milfhuntr » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:43 pm

I found the solution. Ableton has a limiter effect which I turned up the gain on. This worked just fine and did not affect the music at all.

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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by Schnauzer » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:41 pm

milfhuntr wrote:I found the solution. Ableton has a limiter effect which I turned up the gain on. This worked just fine and did not affect the music at all.
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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by leedsquietman » Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:20 am

read Tarekith's guide.

Learn about dynamics.

Remember that commercial material has usually been professionally mastered - one part of the mastering process is indeed using limiters/volume maximizers to push the gain higher, unless you're doing music for soundtracks or classical. In electronic dance music, it's not uncommon for a mix to be pushed 10db or more with compression/limiting in these days of loudness wars. Your DAW mix, unless you loaded a ton of compressors and limiters on it (which is not recommended, treating mastering as a seperate session is usually much better) will sound a lot quieter.

Also remember that what you hear in Live (with 32 bit floating point audio, tons of headroom, virtually impossible to clip etc) this does not apply when rendering down to 16 bit for CD/mp3 which can easily be clipped and has much reduced headroom.

Knowledge is power - read up on some good mixing and mastering material, and practice, practice, practice. Rome wasn't built in a day ...
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Re: Volume Too Low When Rendering Audio

Post by DangerousDave » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:16 pm

leedsquietman wrote:read Tarekith's guide.

Learn about dynamics.

Remember that commercial material has usually been professionally mastered - one part of the mastering process is indeed using limiters/volume maximizers to push the gain higher, unless you're doing music for soundtracks or classical. In electronic dance music, it's not uncommon for a mix to be pushed 10db or more with compression/limiting in these days of loudness wars. Your DAW mix, unless you loaded a ton of compressors and limiters on it (which is not recommended, treating mastering as a seperate session is usually much better) will sound a lot quieter.

Also remember that what you hear in Live (with 32 bit floating point audio, tons of headroom, virtually impossible to clip etc) this does not apply when rendering down to 16 bit for CD/mp3 which can easily be clipped and has much reduced headroom.

Knowledge is power - read up on some good mixing and mastering material, and practice, practice, practice. Rome wasn't built in a day ...
This man speakse the truth.
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