this really deserves its own thread. Another good response:docprosper wrote:what did you all get Ableton for Christmas?
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this really deserves its own thread. Another good response:docprosper wrote:what did you all get Ableton for Christmas?
Ableton Live Suite | M4L | Powerbook | Launchpad | APC40 | Faderfox | 2x1200 | Xone:96 | ...Funk N. Furter wrote:Post properly.
+1 on all that.Angstrom wrote:I have to say that the beat loop-pack things do absolutely zero for me, I'm not that market at all. I assume somewhere out there is a giant squad of 14 year old boys still loving AbsTr4kt Breaks, bit reduction and beat-shuffling. Loops of stuff with a very "authored" sound does nothing for me. It's already finished, and by somebody who isn't me!
On a more positive note, I only just downloaded Ableton's (freebie) Partner Instrument Compilation, which is actually good. There's still a lot of Ab5Trakt BreAks, but also quite a few good presets for Tension and the like to make up for it, also a nice small Taiko sample set, and other stuff. Many of the more impressive presets are of course just big samples played back in Sampler with a ton of effects on, but still - worth getting if you haven't so far.
I have to say that other xmas gift around right now, the NI MicroPrism, was quite amazing to me. I held off downloading that because I'm generally not interested in 'player' instruments, but I was really surprised at the variety and quality of sounds it can produce. It sounds very different, unusual, and deep. It made me say "wow" quite a lot as I skipped through the presets and twiddled the dials.
It's double-worth it if you have Reaktor and can unhide all the knobs (they hid) so you can gain access to the fuller control-set
Thanks for that moment of laziness NI
Hoffoman wrote:
I just feel that they need to re-connect with their user-base in some meaningful way. Its like NI and Ableton switched places.
Angstrom wrote: well, lets hope so eh? Other wise we will all be looking for a new DAW provider!
That's what I call a REAL usable gift. Specially since I own Reaktor. At first I was disappointed with the lame Traktor loops- what a joke. The I saw the Prism, very nice NI. Very lame Abes. At first I thought they were referring to the obvious non-redistribution clause but no usage at all? That's an insult!esky wrote:Those NI Loops are also lame. The mikro prism is nice though.... NI has a long tradition giving away good Reaktor tools on christmas...
I think rather than 'culture' the users simply want a solid product that delivers on their needs.Tarekith wrote:It's interesting that these days a lot of people put so much stake in not only the software a company provides, but also the culture (for lack of a better word) that they help to create too.
wait, you can SELL music?the_planet wrote:Did you ever think to make music as a fun hobby sometimes? You don't have to sell everything you create, you capitalist imperialist pigdogs.
You're on a roll, but anyway a +1 for this...Angstrom wrote:Perhaps I am wrong, perhaps the bulk of live users want nothing more than to receive "DJ Famous's turn things on and off" pack. But I prefer to believe in Lives customer base as full of people making their own shit up.
That's an interesting notion. There's definitely some kind of disconnect here between them and us.Angstrom wrote:it shows how ableton thinks of their customers. Not as creatives, but as fans.