Vocal comping in Live

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pulsoc
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Vocal comping in Live

Post by pulsoc » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:34 pm

Hi peeps - when doing multiple vocal takes I have been recording into session which has been a pretty fast way to do it. However, it makes reviewing the takes somewhat time intensive.

Is there a good way to do multiple takes in Arrangement view, without opening a ton of channels and doing a take per channel?

P.s. still on v.7

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by UKRuss » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:49 pm

Nope.

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by Mister36 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:57 pm

If that is a big issue to you (and I can see why it could be), I would advise getting Reaper. The license is still very cheap and the learning curve for just doing basic recording takes is virtually non-existent.

Maybe Ableton will introduce it in the next version. I think a lot of people would be annoyed if they didn't.

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by Khazul » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:36 pm

Its a complete arse. I was even going to look into a multi-take + comping aid in max for live and as usual critical useful functions for doing this were missing from the object model.

(Someone please remind me what M4L is actually useful for?)
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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by pulsoc » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:19 pm

well that's a pity

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by Rave » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:33 pm

Get Cubase

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by evernaut » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:53 pm

I do a lot of vocal recording in Live, and it's a massive pain in the arse. But out of sheer laziness I'll record a take in Arr. view then drag it over out of the way to the right & then do another, etc. Then drag them all into new tracks to audition once I'm done recording.

edit- this becomes much trickier if you're working on parts rather than a full take though :x

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by EX » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:22 am

If the editor isn't in 9 then Ableton really don't have a clue

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by UKRuss » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:10 am

tbh, if you didnt take advantage of the £12 Studio One Artist offer during Namm you only have yourselves to blame. :D

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by vicz » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:21 pm

Rave wrote:Get Cubase
Or Reason/Record, or Logic, or Reaper, or Studio 1, or Garageband(!) or .....

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by anybody human » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:33 pm

vicz wrote:
Rave wrote:Get Cubase
Or Reason/Record, or Logic, or Reaper, or Studio 1, or Garageband(!) or .....
or Pro Tools (gasp). Yeah, unfortunately you'll need another program to do vocal comping. Workarounds have been mentioned before, but wouldn't be that effective in terms of having a fast, streamlined, efficient workflow - which is the whole point.

I just learned that Reaper is made by Justin Frankel, author of Gnutella & WinAmp. He projects a very user friendly attitude, trying to keep in touch with users and constantly improve the software. It will be interesting to see how Reaper evolves.

Really hoping for improvements to the Arrangement page in Live 9 but I'm beginning to think that having traditional DAW functions are just out of the question. After all, it's not a DAW, it's a sequencer. An audio sequencer, but still a sequencer.

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by anybody human » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:52 pm

BTW in terms of popular topics on this forum, this issue of traditional DAW functions is right up there with;
Stability - What plugins should I buy? - How to get banned in 3 easy steps - DaftMau5 - Sidechain _____ - Recommend tutorial videos? - How do I make this synth sound? It starts around 4:31 - Group buy - Mac vs. PC - Messi vs. Ronaldo - Brady vs. Manning - Roe v. Wade - Spy vs. Spy - 11 on 11 - 5 on 5 - toma(y)to/toma(h)to - and M4L runtime. Just saying.

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by EX » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:59 pm

Live's meant to be a DAW too...

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by heavensdaw » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:02 pm

Comping in Live is a royal PITA..

C'mon Abes!!! Soooo close..... Yet soooo far!

Hd

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Re: Vocal comping in Live

Post by anybody human » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:06 pm

EX wrote:Live's meant to be a DAW too...
Yeah you're right. I was just throwing that out there as a half assed comment. It's definitely a DAW, but there's always that conflict between a live performance sequencer and a full blown production suite. They've done a pretty good job improving the features over the years in terms of DAW functions, I just think it still has room for improvement in that area. I use Live every single day and still love it though.

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