How awesome are SSD drives?

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How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by sporkles » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:37 pm

To those of you sporting an SSD drive (and especially in a laptop): do you only use it for the OS and applications?
If so, do you keep all your files and projects on an external drive? How is that working out - any performance
drop, compared to an internal drive? (I've only tried that with my music library, for use with Traktor and
Ayetunes, which is no problem).
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Re: How cool are SSD drives?

Post by ARDJ » Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:20 pm

are we talking temperature or penis size, i'm confused...

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Re: How cool are SSD drives?

Post by sporkles » Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:47 pm

Thanks for the bump. The question still stands.

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Re: How cool are SSD drives?

Post by Mister Natural » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:58 am

sporkles wrote:To those of you sporting an SSD drive (and especially in a laptop): do you only use it for the OS and applications?
If so, do you keep all your files and projects on an external drive? How is that working out - any performance
dtop, compared to an internal drive? (I've only tried that with my music library, for use with Traktor and
Ayetunes, which is no problem).
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Re: How cool are SSD drives?

Post by sporkles » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:16 am

^ Thanks for the feedback! How about laptop users? Anyone?

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Re: How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by Delie » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:56 am

I own an intel ssd. I use it for my o/s boot drive and only the programs I use the most. It's nice, fast and quiet, but it wont change your life and they're probably not worth the cost. Whilst the boot time is noticeably quicker, it's not massively obvious for most programs. They're a blatant rip off at the moment unfortunately, but they are the future.

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Re: How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by pepezabala » Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:14 am

Now is there or isn't there an advantage in using usb-pendrives for your liveset? I have now a 8 GB pendrive. Is it supposedly faster than my internal 5400 rpm harddrive?

How would I measure that?

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Re: How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by Simbosan » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:27 am

I would use it for your page file, Ableton Library and Ableton sets. If you use it for OS you will mostly speed up boot and not much else. Use it for data that is read and written a LOT. OS files tend to be load once and stay resident, except when paged which is why you should stick your page file on the SSD.

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Re: How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by MPGK » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:47 pm

This is like the fourth thread about SSDs this month. Must be getting popular. I'll wait until they're affordable.

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Re: How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by Khazul » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:21 pm

If your just going to use it for a pagge file, then surely just get more main memory for your machine? Cheaper and far more efffective!

Actually I was wonderign about the real world performance of these things as well for a 2.66Ghz/8GB i7 macbook pro - 500Gb 5400 rpm drive, or the apple 128GB ssd + external drive?
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Re: How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by Piplodocus » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:32 pm

Khazul wrote:Actually I was wonderign about the real world performance of these things as well for a 2.66Ghz/8GB i7 macbook pro - 500Gb 5400 rpm drive, or the apple 128GB ssd + external drive?
I'd get one with a Sandforce chipset (check OCZ or OWC?), rather than an overpriced slower Apple one.

There's some figures on http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/internal ... _Sandforce

Dunno about real-world DAW use though. I guess real world is easier with SSDs since they'll always read nearer their peak output than a physical platter will.

It's probably worth checking write speeds as well though if you're recording.
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Re: How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by Simbosan » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:48 pm

Khazul wrote:If your just going to use it for a pagge file, then surely just get more main memory for your machine? Cheaper and far more efffective!
RAM is limited by CPU addressing e.g. 4gb for 32bit processor, paging isn't. Paging is a fact of life, paging always happens. And no I wouldn't use it 'just' for paging. I ain't that rich yet =) Tho it would be nice!

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Re: How cool are SSD drives?

Post by ARDJ » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:59 pm

sporkles wrote:Thanks for the bump. The question still stands.
haha you changed it from "how cool are SSD drives" to now, "how awesome". trying to make me look dumb but i'm on to you!

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Re: How cool are SSD drives?

Post by sporkles » Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:56 pm

ARDJ wrote: haha you changed it from "how cool are SSD drives" to now, "how awesome".
Correct
ARDJ wrote: trying to make me look dumb
Incorrect (and it's not like you needed any help, penis guy). I realised the ambiguity of the first title, so I changed it.

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Re: How awesome are SSD drives?

Post by Khazul » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:03 pm

Simbosan wrote:
Khazul wrote:If your just going to use it for a pagge file, then surely just get more main memory for your machine? Cheaper and far more efffective!
RAM is limited by CPU addressing e.g. 4gb for 32bit processor, paging isn't. Paging is a fact of life, paging always happens. And no I wouldn't use it 'just' for paging. I ain't that rich yet =) Tho it would be nice!

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Well - true if you are running a ton of other shit, but memory management in a DAW doesnt really use the page file much in the way an ordinary application does - as it mostly uses locked virtual memory - ie the assigned phsyical pages are locked in memory and not paged out by the OS, but instead tend to be micro-managed by the app or plugin to do audio/sample buffering.

Of course anything running else that is non-real time will use page file space upto the application memory limit, so yes it helps a little.
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