Warpping unclearly defined kicks??

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zahnerj
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Warpping unclearly defined kicks??

Post by zahnerj » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:44 am

when warping in ableton I have trouble figuring out where to put the warp marker if the kicks are unclearly defined, in dance music of course. Not all songs start with just kicks, when they do its a breeze but sometimes they start with kicks and bass,melody or whatever and it makes it extremely difficult to figure out where to put the warp marker, any help would be appreciated, a video maybe? thanks

Rabalder
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Re: Warpping unclearly defined kicks??

Post by Rabalder » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:38 am

Doesnt matter where you put them as long as it sounds good.

ARDJ
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Re: Warpping unclearly defined kicks??

Post by ARDJ » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:22 pm

Rabalder wrote:Doesnt matter where you put them as long as it sounds good.

that should be the default answer to every question that gets posted :) To the OP, if your kicks are not as defined maybe the snare is? or the hi hat? You can always use something else to help ableton figure out the timing, using kicks is just one method

andrewbrewer
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Re: Warpping unclearly defined kicks??

Post by andrewbrewer » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:08 am

there is a way to work backwards. clear warp markers. go to the part of the song where kicks start. place a warp marker. also set that marker to 1:1:1 (i think a right click). figure out where your warp marker needs to be for the 9:1:1 beat 8 bars later. pull in the warp grid until you form 8 bars to this point and add a warp marker there.

now you can take you play-start arrow and pull it backwards from 1:1:1

pull the arrow back 8 or 16 or whatever bars and you should get a melodic passage that fits your tempo and leads into your main beat. sometimes it needs slight adjustments, so you have to put a warp marker before the 1:1:1 (this will set 1:1:1 to the earlier marker by default), but trust your ears here. don't go adding a ton of warp markers, just find the "one" at the start of the beatless passage that helps it to fit to tempo.

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