Things you wish you had known earlier...

Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live
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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by djadonis206 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:59 pm

Don't take music so seriously, seriously, it's a fun hobby

Don't try and reinvent the wheel - sample, sample, sample

Start small, you first track will not be a huge club stormer

Work with what you got - work through your problems / limitations. New ghear will not solve your propblems

Take time to learn some basic music theory. Basic theory, goes a loooooooooong way
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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by The Carpet Cleaner » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:34 am

Layer everything

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by Felonius » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:18 am

Tone Deft wrote:
UncleAge wrote:I'd say that if you are going to do electronic music, regardless of genre, you might:
rubs me the wrong way that this forum is so electronic music oriented. in the big picture it's only a small genre of music that's out there.

apparently it's the easiest to make, any idiot can do it, most do.
(trap is set...)

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:21 am

old trollbait. :P

kinda. ;)
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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by EX » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:41 am

The following points may seem mega-obvious and even faintly absurd but worth stating and something of a demon purge.

If you're working somewhere where you're constantly disturbed and distracted, leave for somewhere better.

If you do vocals yourself as well as everything else, double leave for somewhere better. (Of course many would probably say don't bother to be such a person at all, but just for the few jack-of-all's who are.)

If you've got the money to easily leave early on, leave for better, don't stay trying to modify the unsuitable place, spending more and more on gear you'll just end up selling and ways to escape the distractions and ways to kid yourself you're getting anywhere and acoustic treatment for a place that just annoys you on a basic level and so on. You could find yourself seven years later as more of a ghost than a human being locked in an endless loop of regret and anger about why you didn't just use all your advantages correctly at the beginning by just leaving.

You can be supremely talented and get nowhere. Prodigious talent in some aspects might actually become a hindrance.

I think people with some talent and something to 'say', plus huge freedom in terms of time to be dedicated and a wonderful place to work (in terms of peace and tranquility and seclusion not equipment necessarily) and few other competing concerns (I accept this will probably be very few people indeed!) will be just fine.

One needs to have a situation where the process can be unconditionally loved and as such is relatively unstymied OR a decent external incentive to drive the work that will make enduring what is interim, occasional pain and frustration of circumstance worthwhile. Must have one or the other.

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by joshrrr » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:55 pm

drop all of the bass of the last part of the second verse, then bang it back in when the chorus starts, voila.

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by condra » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:41 pm

finish tracks

colaborate (in person)

dont sweat over gear

dont spend too much time online

experiment

listen to your favourite music with an analytical ear

learn just two synths, very well (I vote any combo of Massive/Zebra/Operator/Sylenth)

sample... creatively

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by Magik_10 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:43 pm

Less is more... but girls will never agree to that fact.

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by simpleton » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:02 pm

Magik_10 wrote:Less is more... but girls will never agree to that fact.
Neither will guys
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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by Magik_10 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:09 pm

simpleton wrote:
Magik_10 wrote:Less is more... but girls will never agree to that fact.
Neither will guys

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Two sweet racks... one hard choice...

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by memes_33 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:40 pm

1. don't stress the quality (or quantity) of your gear- make what you can with what you have. making good music on shitty gear will only make making music on good gear that much easier. obsessing over gear can turn into a huge rabbit-hole. the one exception is good monitors.
2. electronic music production requires organization as well as creativity. if you're not feeling creative, organize/file/create new sounds. maybe that's just the virgo in me talking, but being able to quickly access files/samples/ideas when you're on a role is paramount to productiveness for me.
3. developing your ears takes years of practice, and never ends.
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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by estevan carlos benson » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:30 pm

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by Muzik 4 Machines » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:34 pm

that live remote is limited to 1000 scenes, if i had known i wouldnt have spent 1000$ on suite+m4l and bought an octotrack instead, now i'm totally fcuked

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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by 3dot... » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:14 pm

Magik_10 wrote:
simpleton wrote:
Magik_10 wrote:Less is more... but girls will never agree to that fact.
Neither will guys

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Two sweet racks... one hard choice...
yeah...
a 40000$ synth ..or a 50$ whore..
really hard one !
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Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...

Post by 3dot... » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:19 pm

Muzik 4 Machines wrote:that live remote is limited to 1000 scenes, if i had known i wouldnt have spent 1000$ on suite+m4l and bought an octotrack instead, now i'm totally fcuked
8O
more than a 1000 scenes ?! why?! what for ?

does octotrack give you a 1000 of (anything) ?
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