Re: Things you wish you had known earlier...
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:27 pm
this has my vote for thread of the year so far.
Really? Are you lumping all forms of electronic music into this heap?Tone Deft wrote:rubs me the wrong way that this forum is so electronic music oriented.UncleAge wrote:I'd say that if you are going to do electronic music, regardless of genre, you might:
(trap is set...)
blanket statements, stereotypes and generalizations make life so much easier.UncleAge wrote:Really? Are you lumping all forms of electronic music into this heap?Tone Deft wrote:rubs me the wrong way that this forum is so electronic music oriented.UncleAge wrote:I'd say that if you are going to do electronic music, regardless of genre, you might:
(trap is set...)
Tone Deft wrote:I'm pretty much always listening to music.chaibuka wrote:Out of curiosity what would you say your roots are. I'm guessing you might leave out some music you enjoy as to bring some focus.Tone Deft wrote:I wish I never bothered to try to make dance music. booooooring. stick with my roots.
YMMV.
on the production end of things -
- get good monitors
- don't try to polish turds, start with good recordings, effects don't make things sound good, they just add flavor
- FFS just lay down a few minutes of loops in Arrange view and move on with writing
- take time to setup my tools, including a good drum loop library
etc.
the problem was all these fun soft synths, I spent too much time making fun sounds and layering them, but it's just not me. I started making music with a guitar, more organic music. I've learned to start with some drums then I add guitar or bass guitar and stick with those. I add soft synths later in the process to fill out the sound.
one thing that was a great influence on me is this interview with Vince Clarke. towards the end he mentions that he wrote many of his songs on guitar and then played them on synth. he wrote songs for Depeche Mode, Yazoo and Erasure, some of my big synth band influences in my youth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RPPKO_iS8
I also don't play keys so getting a midi guitar was a great in helping me tame my synth programming. music theory helped me decode the ebony and ivories but I can't really play keys, I just poke at them.
I disagree with your disagreeing with my disagreement.I disagree with your disagreement =) Music is all about heart, the more you put in, the better. If you aren't feeling it, you can't put the heart in it.
Ok. Fair enough.Tone Deft wrote:blanket statements, stereotypes and generalizations make life so much easier.
for simple minded dolts.
No you dont! you are agreeing with me disagreeing with your disagreement, what you are talking about is a technical problem and yeah, attack em and don't give up till someone is dead. I have zero problems with my setup to be honest, no technical problems at all. The only problem I have is with other things grabbing my attention and severe performance anxiety (with respect to music!)mrdelurk wrote:I disagree with your disagreeing with my disagreement.I disagree with your disagreement =) Music is all about heart, the more you put in, the better. If you aren't feeling it, you can't put the heart in it.
100% of the time, the cause *I* don't feel like making music is because something doesn't work right or at all (it broke) again around the computer. The M-Audio card quit, one of the 6 RAID HDs is out of whack, copy protection bent Program X out of shape after installing Program Y, the OS update made the SCSI tape drive unresponsive, some such sh*t happens Every Darned Week. Turning the computers on is almost "let's see what's gone today?" When talking to people I tend to call ours "the generation when computers still sucked".
If one doesn't attack the problem, it will be still there 10 years from now. Hence my habit of charging at it *now!* Of course I don't feel like dealing with it. Hey, American Idol is on TV! Luckily that turns me right back to the rig.
i really could not tell if they where joking or being serious.Piplodocus wrote:Read "The Manual".
http://www.loudat.com/audio/klf-book-themanual.pdf
Some interesting, thought provoking stuff in there. Even if you don't follow it...
nathannn wrote:i really could not tell if they where joking or being serious.Piplodocus wrote:Read "The Manual".
http://www.loudat.com/audio/klf-book-themanual.pdf
Some interesting, thought provoking stuff in there. Even if you don't follow it...
they dont go on to explain how to become an artist to hit number 1
they tell you that you should be unemployed but then go on to say book 5 days in a studio.
how do you book 5 days in a studio with no money.
maybe this would have worked in the 80's, but the industry has changed so much since this article was written that. i dont see any relevant pieces of information.
+1gurumonkey wrote:well, I retract thread of the year comment unless we get back to useful stuff.
Erasure | Shouting Out the FutureTone Deft wrote:I'm pretty much always listening to music.chaibuka wrote:Out of curiosity what would you say your roots are. I'm guessing you might leave out some music you enjoy as to bring some focus.Tone Deft wrote:I wish I never bothered to try to make dance music. booooooring. stick with my roots.
YMMV.
on the production end of things -
- get good monitors
- don't try to polish turds, start with good recordings, effects don't make things sound good, they just add flavor
- FFS just lay down a few minutes of loops in Arrange view and move on with writing
- take time to setup my tools, including a good drum loop library
etc.
the problem was all these fun soft synths, I spent too much time making fun sounds and layering them, but it's just not me. I started making music with a guitar, more organic music. I've learned to start with some drums then I add guitar or bass guitar and stick with those. I add soft synths later in the process to fill out the sound.
one thing that was a great influence on me is this interview with Vince Clarke. towards the end he mentions that he wrote many of his songs on guitar and then played them on synth. he wrote songs for Depeche Mode, Yazoo and Erasure, some of my big synth band influences in my youth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5RPPKO_iS8
I also don't play keys so getting a midi guitar was a great in helping me tame my synth programming. music theory helped me decode the ebony and ivories but I can't really play keys, I just poke at them.