NI's new synth - Razor

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by ze2be » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:33 pm

glitchrock-buddha wrote:It was a terrible explanation of additive synthesis. He basically explained additive synthesis as if it were subtractive synthesis and mentioned there were a bunch of sine waves. And it super annoying. I'm not usually bothered by a persons voice in a tutorial, but I just wished he'd speak like an adult talking to another adult.
Haha! Come on, look at it with some humor man. ;)
I like silly demo people much more then uptight, sour and dry. OK, maybe it was a crappy additive synthesis explanation, but when it came down to how to operate the synth, I kind of felt I got most of it just by watching the video. Much more so then NIs dudstep trailer bonanza video. anywayzzz

@beat me: Thats my thought as well. It might be a great versatile bass synth.
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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by Liam » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:27 pm

Razor is a CPU hog it seems. Many of the 'Poly' voices are limited to just 3 notes polyphony.

This is on my dusl core PC so I will need to install on my quad core PC soon to compare.

Many very useful sounds and lots of exploring.

Love the visual displays.

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by jellycaster » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:22 pm

does anyone else have anything to report re CPU usage? it would seem that with all the partials, and swanky graphic diplay, it might be quite intensive?

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by DRStudio » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:29 pm

Torley has put out a bunch of nice videos where he covers pretty much all the presets of Razor. Worth watching.

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 1 - Bass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kBkxTG4dXU

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 2 - Leads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXvupcKnNF0

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 3 - Pads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u_EIiuyuQc

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 4 - Keys & Bells
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfrQo9o_L0A

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 5 - SFX & Percussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Nq0TzzlGE

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 6 - Soundscapes and Sequences
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFKJa-Esp5E

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 7 - Vocoder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhBfAr6UPfY

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 8 - Errorsmith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSPPSE_sP0I

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by razorblade » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:01 pm

Now I remember why I liked my old K5 so much....
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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by Tweaking Knobs » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:28 pm

beats me wrote:Had a $29 NI discount coupon so done and done.

It's a serious dubstep machine. :P

ha! thanx for remembering me about those, gonna get it later ! ;-)

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by errorsmith » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:05 pm

Liam wrote: Many of the 'Poly' voices are limited to just 3 notes polyphony.
Hi there,

as the developer of razor i would to comment on this. I hope that is ok.

Razor is actually 6 voice polyphonic.

You referring to the 'Voice Limit' setting. If set to 3 the numbers of voices are reduced in case you play keys below 100 Hz. That is to safe CPU consumption.

This should not be a big limitation as polyphonic playing happends normally in the mid keyrange.

all the best,

erik

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by razorblade » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:09 pm

Nice Job, Erik!
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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by agent314 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:10 pm

Listening to the Torley preset video, this thing actually has a lot more versatility than the demo trailer thing suggests. A lot more useful stuff than just wobblebass and filter sweeps.

NI did themselves a disservice by making the demo so 'LOOK AT HOW YOU CAN WOBBLE WITH IT!', IMO

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by Liam » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:21 pm

razorblade wrote:Now I remember why I liked my old K5 so much....
I have a K5 and a K5M but they are both in storage somewhere. The K5 keyboard lost its responsiveness. One day...

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by DRStudio » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:37 pm

agent314 wrote:Listening to the Torley preset video, this thing actually has a lot more versatility than the demo trailer thing suggests. A lot more useful stuff than just wobblebass and filter sweeps.

NI did themselves a disservice by making the demo so 'LOOK AT HOW YOU CAN WOBBLE WITH IT!', IMO
Agree! Was listening to the pads on Torley's video and i'm sold out already. I like NI's videos in general, but yeah, i wasn't that much interested when i saw their video also.

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by agent314 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:00 pm

Any word yet on the CPU use? I'm tempted to get Razor now after hearing it in action.

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by estevan carlos benson » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:35 pm

Additive synthesis is severely under utilized. I remember the old Kawai K5 from a decade ago. I had hoped it would make a bigger splash. We've been using FM for too long.
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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by Pinnipeds » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:57 am

Looks really cool but could I use it as a VST inside of Live?

I'm looking at either Razor or Operator, any help?

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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Post by Rationalizer » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:01 am

Pinnipeds wrote:Looks really cool but could I use it as a VST inside of Live?
You have to use it with Reaktor 5.5 or Reaktor Player (free from NI's website).
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