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Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:43 am
by nc2010
Hello,

Is there some pitch-shifting device, included in Live, that allows to Transpose, without using the Warp features ?

(I don't want the quality of pitchshifting, which is a fairly simple thing, to be dependant on the quality of the transients that Ableton Live has detected.... I'm sure it exists a pitchshifting tool, independant of the Warp, but where ?)

thx

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:51 am
by LeifonMars
nc2010 wrote:Hello,

Is there some pitch-shifting device, included in Live, that allows to Transpose, without using the Warp features ?

(I don't want the quality of pitchshifting, which is a fairly simple thing, to be dependant on the quality of the transients that Ableton Live has detected.... I'm sure it exists a pitchshifting tool, independant of the Warp, but where ?)

thx
Not what you're after, I guess, but there is a device called frequency shifter.

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:27 am
by Dexes
No, the frequency shifter does not pitch shift.
Pitch shifting multiplies the frequency, while the frequency shifter adds to the frequency, resulting in a very different sound.

If you want to pitch shift a sample without warping you can either just use an audio clip's transpose knob while leaving warp turned off, or you can load it in a simpler/sampler and draw notes in the piano roll (C3 being the samples original pitch)

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:22 am
by maky355
Puremagnetik has some pitch shifters within M4L called Max fuel, there are some free in MaxforLive online library i think.

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:34 pm
by 3dot...
grain delay.. set to 2 ms. 100% wet..

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:12 pm
by tracy
Is there anyway to do this without the delay and hearing the original sound?

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:48 pm
by Dragonbreath
If your on a mac, theres an apple plugin, thats built in that pitch shifts in real time

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:46 am
by tracy
Dragonbreath wrote:If your on a mac, theres an apple plugin, thats built in that pitch shifts in real time
Thanks Dragon. the AU plug worked great.

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:29 am
by shuutobi
You can use the frequency shifter to fine tune things that are of a fixed pitch.

I use it occasionally to correct the tuning of kick drums. (Live drum takes)

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:06 pm
by herrherrmann
Dragonbreath wrote:If your on a mac, theres an apple plugin, thats built in that pitch shifts in real time
A great tip indeed! I haven't tried it out yet but it looks very promising so far. :)
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Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:43 pm
by yur2die4
Use warp, remove transients. If the transients are all you're concerned about and you do not need to do realtime pitch shift, warping works just fine. Just use a minimal amount of markers, etc.

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:14 pm
by dysanfel
Anyone know of a stereo pitch shifting M4L plugin that can do Right and Left channels independently? For instance, shift the right -3 and the left +3 semi-tones?

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 4:10 pm
by yur2die4
If you look in Packs in the Ableton site, filter it to free max ones, there is one pack of devices that utilize tools from the more recent version of max.

It has a lot of harmonizers, pitch and tuning, pitch followers, etc.

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:22 pm
by mholloway
the last big update of Cycling 74 patches for M4L focused entirely on pitch shifting devices (actual pitch shifting, not frequency shifting). There's like 6+ of them in there covering a range of tasks. This stuff is in the standard ableton packs page, and it's free.

Re: Ableton Live pitch-shifting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:27 pm
by Monchai
try the apple pitch shift, love it. Finally, something new and exciting (and free too)