Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by Jarvisimon » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:56 pm

I personally love the saturator, especially the waveshaper module but all Live's effects are pretty good once you experiment.

Would be nice to have more side chainable effects, especially reverb. It would also be nice to be able to modulate parameters with a mini sequencer, similar to the matrix pattern generator in Reason.

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by nylarch » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:00 pm

Insta-phat (or EQ3, as it is more commonly known).
Please explain its phatness - would like to know how to use this EQ more phat-ly.
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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:48 pm

IP wrote:
savyurrecords wrote:Utility - A great tool for fixing levels after automation.
utility wont even allow you to set gain @ -inf
so stack them up.

Utility, I use it the most, possibly on every .als.
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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by H20nly » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:00 pm

i like to find a way to slip in a Pong delay... especially on something subtle.

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by Cezband » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:45 pm

nylarch wrote:
Insta-phat (or EQ3, as it is more commonly known).
Please explain its phatness - would like to know how to use this EQ more phat-ly.
I could be wrong, but I think he's referring to the weird characteristic that it has where it seems to do something to the sound even when set neutrally. I can't really describe what that something is, but I personally don't like it. But I can see why someone else may find it to be an agreeable effect. Drop it on a channel and turn it on and off and have a listen.
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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by MajoDub » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:24 pm

savyurrecords wrote:Utility - A great tool for fixing levels after automation.
+1 and for great stereo tricks

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by Khazul » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:07 am

Cezband wrote:
nylarch wrote:
Insta-phat (or EQ3, as it is more commonly known).
Please explain its phatness - would like to know how to use this EQ more phat-ly.
I could be wrong, but I think he's referring to the weird characteristic that it has where it seems to do something to the sound even when set neutrally. I can't really describe what that something is, but I personally don't like it. But I can see why someone else may find it to be an agreeable effect. Drop it on a channel and turn it on and off and have a listen.
Its the effect of inadequately damped filters that are used to separate the bands and/or a consequence of summing phase changed signals. At default settings (250/2500, 48dbOct) it will cause a peaking of about 3db centered on each crossover frequency.
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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by friend_kami » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:01 am

IP wrote:
savyurrecords wrote:Utility - A great tool for fixing levels after automation.
utility wont even allow you to set gain @ -inf


An empty rack for me, the ultimate automation tool! (really cant work without it right now)

I have it in every track, holding all my volume/pan/on-off automation.
wtf. that never crossed my mind.
hah, fancy that.

i do have more racks then i can count, but never crossed my mind to just have an automation container like that. (i hear you, on the miss with gain on utility).

edit: oh. reply to OP also.
i'd second live's reverb.

infact, i love all live's devices, including amp. although amp sounds like shit for guitars heh. but man it can make some incredibly awesome sounds when used with the right source audio.

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by foxymethoxy » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:13 am

MIDI Note Length

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by yearlongyeti » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:22 am

GM midi map, not really an effect but its sorted alot of things out for me

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by luddy » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:26 am

I'd have to agree with all the votes for Reverb. It's capable of a pretty big range of sounds, on top of which it's by far the easiest reverb to program that I've run across. I find that sometimes I need to couple it with some delays outside or an EQ8, etc. But it's great.

I think the Grain delay is underrated too. It's capable of a nice range of distortion effects.

The more I work in Live, the less I use 3d party plug-ins. The one thing I really wish that Live provided was a variation on AutoFilter with some really nice analog filter emulations, i.e., Moog-style ladder filter emulations. There are some nice filters in Live, but they are inconsistently provided, with one set over there in FM, a slightly different set in Sampler, yet a different set in Analog, another set in AutoFilter, etc. I kind of wish that all those were expanded to include a complete set that you could expect to find everywhere that Live provides filters.

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by Cezband » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:38 am

Khazul wrote:Its the effect of inadequately damped filters that are used to separate the bands and/or a consequence of summing phase changed signals. At default settings (250/2500, 48dbOct) it will cause a peaking of about 3db centered on each crossover frequency.
The learning! It burns my mind! That's a wicked explanation man, cheers...but damn is it early for me to start picturing crossover frequencies :)
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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by swishniak » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:00 am

autopan! i use it all the time for strange LFO / envelope / randomness + verb, etc..

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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by mdk » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:45 am

friend_kami wrote:
IP wrote: An empty rack for me, the ultimate automation tool! (really cant work without it right now)

I have it in every track, holding all my volume/pan/on-off automation.
wtf. that never crossed my mind.
same here, thats a genius idea.
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Re: Most Underated Ableton Plugin/Tool

Post by simpleton » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:01 pm

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