^hva han sa.Rabalder wrote:Live is the only DAW that can do what I need my DAW to do. Doesnt matter how its rated.
Live, rated in a shootout of 7 major DAWs
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Re: Live, rated in a shootout of 7 major DAWs
Wørd øp.Tone Deft wrote:^hva han sa.Rabalder wrote:Live is the only DAW that can do what I need my DAW to do. Doesnt matter how its rated.
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but obviously its not as good as daw to fullfill all the needs that might come along in production..otherwise it would have scored better.
It has some advantages.. but to compile and produce albums defently shows its weaks spots and the area where it can be improoved.
Normaly live should have been easily the winner in such a shoot out with the old fashioned daw´s..
Thats it is not, just shows that certain areas are still underdeveloped.
In other words..
An ableton live that would win such a shootout would please you aswell. It wouldnt hurt if live would get a better DAW.
Things like propper automation, timecode support, multiple projekt instances, correct midi implementation..with timing precission, midi delays and intelligent quantisation algos, surround or mutiple outbus support, transparent sound quality and better quality internal plugs, seqeunce creators/step seqencers, intelligent file handling aso..
And dont say that you can do that all with max for live.. its clearly not a daw when you have to program all core functionality yourself. At least the infrastructural stuff needs to be part of the main program.. steps sequencers and plugins ok.. thats extra..
But all routing, automation, time and audio precission related are DAW core functions.. And live is in all 3 of theese diziplins not very strong.. Therefore it cant beat the old fashioned daw´s when it comes to conservativ production tasks.
It has some advantages.. but to compile and produce albums defently shows its weaks spots and the area where it can be improoved.
Normaly live should have been easily the winner in such a shoot out with the old fashioned daw´s..
Thats it is not, just shows that certain areas are still underdeveloped.
In other words..
An ableton live that would win such a shootout would please you aswell. It wouldnt hurt if live would get a better DAW.
Things like propper automation, timecode support, multiple projekt instances, correct midi implementation..with timing precission, midi delays and intelligent quantisation algos, surround or mutiple outbus support, transparent sound quality and better quality internal plugs, seqeunce creators/step seqencers, intelligent file handling aso..
And dont say that you can do that all with max for live.. its clearly not a daw when you have to program all core functionality yourself. At least the infrastructural stuff needs to be part of the main program.. steps sequencers and plugins ok.. thats extra..
But all routing, automation, time and audio precission related are DAW core functions.. And live is in all 3 of theese diziplins not very strong.. Therefore it cant beat the old fashioned daw´s when it comes to conservativ production tasks.
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I Don't know how well Live compares to other DAWs because I can't afford to buy another DAW.
but that test is utter Bollocks. there is no attempt to define any of the terms.
For example what exactly is meant by "Audio Environment", I can't figure out what that even means.
but that test is utter Bollocks. there is no attempt to define any of the terms.
For example what exactly is meant by "Audio Environment", I can't figure out what that even means.
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Pro Tools 9 rated lowest for audio mixing and mastering! Even below FL! This is a wind-up.
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What a brilliant idea for blog promotion. I should write a review of Pro Tools versus FL Studio and post it to a few forums. Hundreds of readers (and haters) within a few hours I bet.
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Re: Live, rated in a shootout of 7 major DAWs
What a load of bull-crap.
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a bit biased and certainly clever promoting
if comparing 1:1 with linear daw, it's true it's still inferior in most aspects for traditional work ,
but not a single other challenger has session view and descent live oriented tools.
so if there were /live oriented/ creativity/ sketching speed / columns live would indeed blow out all other daws easily,
wich would give final score near to middle position or higher. Live was rated as the most apprecied daw in few tests previously.
it still has to progress on regular daw aspect like pointed (midi-implementation,timings,pdc,overal sound quality,snapshots ect)
but it should also keep on focusing on what made it an original powerfull tool that is supposed to be 'live" oriented.
back to session view.(with sexy automs and pdc). once workflow concept is rock solid, the rest is just technical stuff to improve,
if comparing 1:1 with linear daw, it's true it's still inferior in most aspects for traditional work ,
but not a single other challenger has session view and descent live oriented tools.
so if there were /live oriented/ creativity/ sketching speed / columns live would indeed blow out all other daws easily,
wich would give final score near to middle position or higher. Live was rated as the most apprecied daw in few tests previously.
it still has to progress on regular daw aspect like pointed (midi-implementation,timings,pdc,overal sound quality,snapshots ect)
but it should also keep on focusing on what made it an original powerfull tool that is supposed to be 'live" oriented.
back to session view.(with sexy automs and pdc). once workflow concept is rock solid, the rest is just technical stuff to improve,
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What the heck, Ableton has no Cd-Ripper and no Mp3-Support! What a shame...
It's like saying "German cars are the best, why do people even bother buying french ones.."
It's like saying "German cars are the best, why do people even bother buying french ones.."
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ableton is an italien car..but no ferraridokx wrote:What the heck, Ableton has no Cd-Ripper and no Mp3-Support! What a shame...
It's like saying "German cars are the best, why do people even bother buying french ones.."
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Re: Live, rated in a shootout of 7 major DAWs
To me, it's a big selling point that Live has a stripped-down feature set, a set of controls that covers everything I want to do but isn't a mental burden. I can't stand "kitchen sink" designs. But the way this evaluation is done, Live's approach gets pretty heavily penalized. Can't say that I think it's a very informative evaluation.
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Re: Live, rated in a shootout of 7 major DAWs
What nonsense.
Live's instruments scored better than Logic's? Are you kidding me? That's Live's strongpoint, it's instruments? Logic's are about as good as you get.
And where does the routing flexibility come in? Live can route audio from any track to any audio track, route midi to any midi track. Even if we are only talking about traditional DAW deatures and not Live performance, it's still whacked.
Live's instruments scored better than Logic's? Are you kidding me? That's Live's strongpoint, it's instruments? Logic's are about as good as you get.
And where does the routing flexibility come in? Live can route audio from any track to any audio track, route midi to any midi track. Even if we are only talking about traditional DAW deatures and not Live performance, it's still whacked.
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Re: Live, rated in a shootout of 7 major DAWs
glitchrock-buddha wrote:What nonsense.
Live's instruments scored better than Logic's? Are you kidding me? That's Live's strongpoint, it's instruments? Logic's are about as good as you get.
And where does the routing flexibility come in? Live can route audio from any track to any audio track, route midi to any midi track. Even if we are only talking about traditional DAW deatures and not Live performance, it's still whacked.
I agree, I think. What are deatures???
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Re: Live, rated in a shootout of 7 major DAWs
Well I don't see FL as the best DAW here, but Cubase....!?nuxnamon wrote:i've seen that shootout a few times now and they do the same thing every year and FL is always the best DAW and Ableton among the lowest rated.. i wonder if 3phase is somehow involved..
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Fiat then?3phase wrote:ableton is an italien car..but no ferraridokx wrote:What the heck, Ableton has no Cd-Ripper and no Mp3-Support! What a shame...
It's like saying "German cars are the best, why do people even bother buying french ones.."
Cubase is Mercedes, FL Studio is VW, Logic is Volvo, Live is...Porsche...scr.