Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

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Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

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Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by Tweaking Knobs » Thu May 05, 2011 1:19 pm

Is Native Instruments trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by 2be » Thu May 05, 2011 4:18 pm

what is this I don't even

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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by necho » Thu May 05, 2011 4:37 pm

HANG ON -

Did a post that was critical of Ableton just get deleted?
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by 3phase » Thu May 05, 2011 4:38 pm

looks like..so it must have been the truth
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by H20nly » Thu May 05, 2011 4:39 pm

is it already too late? if "us" becomes "it" in the same sentence, does it mean their work is done?

:? i'm so confused

8O how much do we cost?

8O will we come in a box? a tube? a download?

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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by necho » Thu May 05, 2011 4:43 pm

3phase - I'm no fan of your continuous ranting...

but considering the shit Davelton normally lets you get away with, I think you must have touched a nerve with this one.
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by H20nly » Thu May 05, 2011 4:46 pm

we need to know what he said... STAT

the conspiracy is strong with this one.

Emissary needs to examine this right away.
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by necho » Thu May 05, 2011 4:49 pm

H20nly wrote:we need to know what he said... STAT

the conspiracy is strong with this one.

Emissary needs to examine the this.
lol.

he suggested that Ableton might be plotting to repackage Max4Live devices made by the patching community to sell them for profit.

Or at least that's how I understood it.

Now, where's Bin Laden's body?

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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by ollyb303 » Thu May 05, 2011 4:58 pm

So what IS this thread about then???
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by necho » Thu May 05, 2011 5:01 pm

dunno -

must be good though, because that post was deleted pretty quick.

hang around - maybe something cool will turn up.

like a unicorn.
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by ollyb303 » Thu May 05, 2011 5:04 pm

necho wrote:dunno -

must be good though, because that post was deleted pretty quick.

hang around - maybe something cool will turn up.

like a unicorn.
OMG I really hope so!!!
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by H20nly » Thu May 05, 2011 5:12 pm

8O :lol: wow.


wait... what's over there on that sand dune?


















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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by ollyb303 » Thu May 05, 2011 5:16 pm

:mrgreen:
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by 3phase » Thu May 05, 2011 5:19 pm

necho wrote:3phase - I'm no fan of your continuous ranting...

but considering the shit Davelton normally lets you get away with, I think you must have touched a nerve with this one.

what shit? that i called them the fiat of daw´s and stated a behlinger quality?
when live would be a cheap daw there wouldnt be a point. but by making max for live to an integral and unavoidable part of the program we are now around 700-800 euro for the package..
For this kind of investment one would like to dont be a betatester..and actually having some comfort..like a program that is able to find its own audio files when they sit inside the projekt folder...

Isnt it a rather sad joke that you cant move a folder to another harddisk without disableing the program to find its own files?

and i havent said that ableton sells max patches.. I suggested that they have turned the whole max community into a product...

m4l is clearly advertized as a means to profit from the free contributions of the max comunity..without the need to be able to patch yourself.
Thats a rather new thing for a program like max... Cant remember that cycling has ever advertized it that way..
The majority of Live usres wont buy max for the possebility to patch..they buy it for the features created by the max patchers.. therfore the patches an theire authors are the product
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Re: Is NI trying to convert us into a product and sell it ?

Post by H20nly » Thu May 05, 2011 5:25 pm

^ hmmm.. very interesting point.

so what you're saying is; they make you pay... then, and only then, do you get to use the product and gain benefits from it.

now there's a unique concept.







@ Ableton... you free thinking diabolical profiteers you! where do you get these schemes?

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