Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

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st1040
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Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by st1040 » Sat May 14, 2011 9:00 am

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the latest 8.2.2 seems to crash the complete machine rather than just the
program. It's a bad state when it's one or the other! I'm running a mac on OSX 10.5.8

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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by madlab » Sat May 14, 2011 9:06 am

Never happened to me and I'm on 10.5.8. I had some crashes when experimenting with mfl, insterting api patches pointing to some devices and deleting those devices but that's all.
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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by henke » Sat May 14, 2011 3:50 pm

on OSX and other modern operation systems, "full machine crashes" can only happen when something goes wrong on the hardware side of things. this includes core audio drivers. since applications can only exchange data with the drivers, they cannot produce these crashes by themselves.
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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by Khazul » Sat May 14, 2011 3:54 pm

+1 - would have said driver/hardware issue too.

You may want to look at a general OS and driver update and maybe clear out any old unused stuff too which is possible on OSX - on windows I would have said nuke it and start again ;)

Also worth making sure the computer doesnt crash whenever its stressed rather than just in Live.
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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by Pasha » Sat May 14, 2011 6:45 pm

Mr Henke is right but let me add something: 10.5.8 brings a new version of Firewire Audio driver. That was giving me the creeps with my Audio Card, based on CoreAudio.
That went away with Snow Leopard. I always suggest to have a bootable copy with SuperDuper and then test your hardware for sometime before making any changes.
That saved my day many many times. Apple has this nasty habit to improve on delicate components of the Audio architecture without giving a damn to test the basics.

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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by cids » Sat May 14, 2011 7:12 pm

never happened to me, check your config, must be an issue that's related to you audio setup!
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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by rcpunker » Sat May 14, 2011 7:20 pm

Yes, I go and have odd crashes on the 8.2.2 version when just playing Live's Tutorial demo songs. Stopping the demos and trying on open another project, it hangs.

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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by shimmy » Sat May 14, 2011 7:26 pm

I wish I kept 8.2.1 installer. I uninstalled it when I installed 8.2.2 (dumb move on my part). Now 8.2.2 crashes too often for different scenarios. Yea yea, I'm sending bug reports every time.

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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by kb420 » Sat May 14, 2011 7:37 pm

It isn't crashing my whole machine, but it certainly crashes a lot more than 8.2.1.
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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by st1040 » Sat May 14, 2011 10:04 pm

Some interesting post.
never happened to me, check your config, must be an issue that's related to you audio setup!
With reference to my whole computer crashing and audio drivers I'm at the moment just running standard mac stereo
out, no soundcards no audio setup as such.

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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by 3dot... » Sun May 15, 2011 5:51 am

+1
need a new version..
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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by 3dot... » Sun May 15, 2011 5:54 am

st1040 wrote:Some interesting post.
never happened to me, check your config, must be an issue that's related to you audio setup!
With reference to my whole computer crashing and audio drivers I'm at the moment just running standard mac stereo
out, no soundcards no audio setup as such.
..let me just state that in my setup...I use Reaper Renoise and Live..
only Live crashes my system...and has problems with vsts..
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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by ze2be » Sun May 15, 2011 11:21 am

Maybe not relevant, but 95% of my crashes are ram related.
This has helped a lot: Close Live everytime I want to open a new project. Open projects by directly clicking on the save file. This saves a few hundred megabytes of ram use, and thus helps prevent a ram limit crash.
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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by MLZ » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:25 am

same problem here. 8.2.2 creates full freezing, the audio is playing but nothing on the computer works, functions, keyboard, controls. The only way to end this is to hardboot. I have MBpro with Pro40 or FA101.
i think it is definitely a problem with osx10.5.8 and Live 8.2.2. also with the firewire bus. As i only recently upgraded live, and all the problems start. I also have to reboot live a few times to pick up the FW drivers. Tonight i will upgrade to Snow Leopard and hopefully fix the problems.

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Re: Full computer crashes in 8.2.2

Post by Evengy » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:58 am

My problem is when live freezes/crashes the driver of my soundcard is crashing as well and i get a bluescreen (win 7 x64) ;-/ So if live freezes i must restart the pc as fast as possible :/
but i think the problem are the old fucking emu driver (0404 USB).

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