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backward warp

Post by ian_halsall » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:43 pm

Is it possible to warp backwards?

A lot of tunes have an intro which can mislead ableton and it gets the tempo and downneat wrong.

So you go to the main part, set 1.1.1.1 do warp and usually it's fine.

But say you want to play the intro as well.

How do you play from the start and keep it in time without manually going back bar by bar?

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Re: backward warp

Post by 3dot... » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:48 pm

if it's warped you simply fade it in on the 1...

the intro has time as well ..you need to figure out how much time (in bars/beats) the intro is ..
then simply launch it {x} bars before the main beat...
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Re: backward warp

Post by ian_halsall » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:57 pm

It would be nice to be able to warp back in the same way you can warp forward though - do you agree?

I don't think this is difficult to implement either.

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Re: backward warp

Post by 3dot... » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:12 pm

yeah ...warp from the end to the start seems nice..to have
(although I can't see any practical use for it..and probably would never use it)
also you'd still need to figure out "the first 1" or the last 1...
and place it manually..

.. just do it from start to finish ..
it's a much simpler concept than the backwards one..
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Re: backward warp

Post by ian_halsall » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:30 pm

I would use it - especially for tracks where there is a long vocal intro followed by the beats.

I woul go to where the beats start and set 1.1.1.1 and do warp from there and abletgon gets it right.

I then tell it to use the settings for the bit with the beats to go all the way to the start and just put beat markers all the way to the beginning.

I can then easily choose the beat I want to start on without having to 'measure' and count the beats.

It would be really useful for me.

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Re: backward warp

Post by Da hand » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:58 pm

What type of music are you playing?

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Re: backward warp

Post by ian_halsall » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:20 pm

Mostly rubbish.

Seriously - it varies - old techno, some chart stuff, bit of joy division, elgar, maybe even some of my own.

That kind of thing.

Why?

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Re: backward warp

Post by Da hand » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:29 pm

For any music that has a steady tempo throughout the song - techno, house, etc - you only need one warp marker for the whole song (the 1.1.1). What comes before and after this marker will have the same tempo. Therefore, if your 1.1.1 starts on the first beat, but you have an intro before, you don't need to warp it - it is already warped. You just need to place your start marker n number of bars before the 1.1.1

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Re: backward warp

Post by ian_halsall » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:34 pm

A lot of it won't have a steady tempo.

Anyway, it won't be difficult to implement.

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Re: backward warp

Post by memes_33 » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:32 pm

+1 - i have wanted to do this a few times. just another menu item after "warp from here" that would do the same, but before that marker as well.
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