The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

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Re: The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

Post by zigzag » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:36 pm

chris vine wrote:
technochris81 wrote:what does it mean to "truncate the audio properly"? it says this in the article.
Dithering?
I think it refers to croping it (by eliminating unecessary points from the start/end of sample) to fit perfectly to a unit measure.

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Re: The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

Post by The Carpet Cleaner » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:55 pm

I also think it's different to mix/master a track that has been entirely made of presets in VSTs, and loop samples from vengeance CDs, compared to real instruments or samples from external sources or commercial tracks.

when you use good quality presets or cd samples, there is nothing much to mix/master, it's already there. but then your music sounds very generic.

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Re: The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

Post by kev herb » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:05 pm

just got the sausage fattener and have to say impressed so far :!:
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Re: The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

Post by Angstrom » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:29 pm

kev herb wrote:just got the sausage fattener and have to say impressed so far :!:
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Re: The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

Post by Parametex » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:57 pm

technochris81 wrote:what does it mean to "truncate the audio properly"? it says this in the article.
It's a douchebags slang for limiting and maximizing every single channel on your DAW to 0db and summing those channels together without any knowledge of how gainstaging works and then giving interviews to some lackluster blog about it.

Apparently.

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Re: The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

Post by chris vine » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:40 pm

:P Makes sense now.

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Re: The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

Post by darzhliebek » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:12 pm

Parametex wrote:
technochris81 wrote:what does it mean to "truncate the audio properly"? it says this in the article.
It's a douchebags slang for limiting and maximizing every single channel on your DAW to 0db and summing those channels together without any knowledge of how gainstaging works and then giving interviews to some lackluster blog about it.

Apparently.
It actually means to slice/delete the audio clips so that you dont have unwanted transients leaking over and unnecessarily taking up headroom when other instruments and sounds are playing.

Thanks for reading

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Re: The Art of LOUD – Production masterclass with Thomas Penton

Post by nopattern » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:13 pm

Parametex wrote:
technochris81 wrote:what does it mean to "truncate the audio properly"? it says this in the article.
It's a douchebags slang for limiting and maximizing every single channel on your DAW to 0db and summing those channels together without any knowledge of how gainstaging works and then giving interviews to some lackluster blog about it.

Apparently.
im pretty sure he means truncating as in editing the audio file so the hits and peaks don't overlap, sounds not sustaining into the next hits and dirty peaks that make your sound thin. if you read the wiki article on beat music it tells you that the fundamental of a successful beat is complete silence between the hits. this is a bit trickier to control with just midi, of course you have envelopes but cutting the length of samples is a classic sound of all kinds of hip hop and sample based music, used for the effect of the sound and space being completely cut. this tends to give more impact when the beat drops in and out

to me his process is standard. and it doesn't mean he just "slams limiters"

you can easily be metering on K-14 and have peaks up to 0dbfs with an rms of -14 or 0db on the K scale. i'm sure he's well aware of all this as just his manner of speaking is impressively intelligent compared to other producer interviews i've read

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