Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

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Citizen
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Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by Citizen » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:49 am

ie. not just approximating curves by drawing lots of little points with smaller sections of smaller lines.

Or, for those who are familiar with Illustrator and Photoshop - 'Bezier' curves.

Is this possible?

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by m:o » Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:12 am

:twisted:

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by Tweaking Knobs » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:22 am

Of course is possible, i mean we live in the year 2011, all DAWs have bezier curves...


Ha ! No YOU CANT !!!


LIVE dont have bezier curves !!!


For real , believe it or not...


Yes it sucks ass...

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by Citizen » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:40 am

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

I know Bezier curves are a little tricky to use for a rookie, but they should at least give the option to be able to create curves.

What about the little cross-fade that you can specify between clips - that is curved! Why aren't their true curves elsewhere?!

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by perplex » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:33 pm

whats wrong with taking off the grid, zooming out, enabling draw on your automation and drawing a simple curve?

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by Citizen » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:51 pm

ITs all chucky and jagged when I do that - I can never quite get it as smooth as I might like it.

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by Tweaking Knobs » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:58 pm

perplex wrote:whats wrong with taking off the grid, zooming out, enabling draw on your automation and drawing a simple curve?


Are you for real ?

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by Citizen » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:48 am

Yeah, I'd hardly call what the pen/pencil tool draws a 'curve'

;)

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by pencilrocket » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:26 pm

Use generator/effects that has built in envelope/lfo.
Or.... get graphics tablet to draw nice curved line :mrgreen:.

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by perplex » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:31 am

Tweaking Knobs wrote:
perplex wrote:whats wrong with taking off the grid, zooming out, enabling draw on your automation and drawing a simple curve?


Are you for real ?
i think you are more interested in the curve than how your music sounds. Because the difference would be very small to the listener. u whore

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by Tweaking Knobs » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:42 pm

perplex wrote:
Tweaking Knobs wrote:
perplex wrote:whats wrong with taking off the grid, zooming out, enabling draw on your automation and drawing a simple curve?


Are you for real ?
i think you are more interested in the curve than how your music sounds. Because the difference would be very small to the listener. u whore

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by mikesena » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:19 am

No, but you can use hardware. Twisting a dial ads more points on the curve. So if you practice it / get it right, it'll be more curve like without manually going right down to tweak points yourself.

TBH, I don't miss curves greatly from FL... I find I can get it close enough with a few more points, well positioned, that would be entirely unnoticeable to anyone.

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Re: Is it possible to draw actual curves in automation?

Post by Hermanus » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:20 am

come on guys, humans are not so limited!

They can use some brain and finger tip to achieve such curves :mrgreen:

adding to this there's a funny phonetic word trick in french with bézier. :oops:
that would sound like a F@ckRoom curve :idea:

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